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  1. #1
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Devils Lake, North Dakota


    Just got done watching the U of Geogia 2 video "Year in the Life of an Apiary".


    They only major head scratcher is Professor Delaplane's use of Fumadil and Teramycin in spring and fall. This seems to go against the advise I've received from you all. I tend to think it is not a good practice to routinely use antibiotics.

    Thoughts? Comments?
    Closing in on retirement.......

  2. #2
    Join Date
    May 2002
    Danbury,Ct. USA


    You have to take what you read on this board remembering where it comes from. We are more likely to be conservative in the use of medications. We can also afford to lose a lot of bees and we do. Dr Delaplane and others are trying to build a system that it is possible for commercial beekeepers to use. THEY will use what they have to. I've heard of a few things that bother me enough that I don't want to eat their honey. Re: the antibiotics... they have already been using Tylosin for awhile. The rest of us have been waiting for it to become legal.
    I have never had anything in my hives but O/A or FGMO.

    Dick Marron

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Jan 2001
    New York City


    > ...Fumadil and Teramycin in spring and fall...

    I think that if you would ask Keith today,
    he would admit that the tapes are slightly
    outdated in regard to the position on
    Teramycin use.

    The current consensus is much more rational,
    in that use of antibiotics is not recommended
    unless one has a detectable problem.

    But Fumadil is another thing. The consensus
    remains unchanged. I don't think that the
    whole nosema problem is thought about enough!

    Nosema can cut a colony's growth and productivity
    by 1/3 to 1/2. Unless you go look for the
    disease, you may never see it.

    It is the first thing I think of when I see a
    few weak colonies in a yard of stronger colonies.

    The "examine the mid-gut test" for Nosema has a
    very high false negative rate. It only shows
    the worst cases. Using a microscope, and looking
    for the actual nosema paramecia is the only way to
    get a good handle on the extent of the disease.

    The good news is that resistance has never
    cropped up, as it is an Antifungal, not an
    antibiotic, so you COULD use it in both spring
    and fall, but I don't know anyone who uses
    it in fall.

    The stuff is not cheap, but like a good queen,
    it is an investment that pays direct dividends
    in the form of bigger colonies and bigger crops.

    Nothing else except Fumadil will cure a case
    of nosema, and even the advocates of the
    various alternative treatments have never
    claimed that their favorite treatments have
    any effect. To cure an intestinal fungus,
    you need to feed syrup with an anti-fungal
    to get it into the bees' digestive tracts
    where it can work.

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Lamoille County, Vermont, USA


    >I think that if you would ask Keith today,
    he would admit that the tapes are slightly
    outdated in regard to the position on
    Teramycin use.

    Here's his email.... go ahead and ask him!

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    North Georgia mountains


    Bruce, the tapes, as stated above, are a bit long in the tooth. If you talk to Delaplane or Dr Jamie Ellis at UGA today you'll find them going with IPM rather than regularily scheduled automatic medication.



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