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Ok so queens & packages are in short supply to be put mildly speaking this year in the USA.
So lets next year add in another poor summer, tough losses in the fall & winter & just for kicks lets add...

Just about every chemical & it's cousin the USDA machine is set up for.
I have had other beeks have the same testing done ( not sure were it was done ) with the same results.
We all agree it's a...

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What am I going to do???
Simple, the co-ops we do business with & the farmers that we have bees on I ask them ( very politely )
if they use fungicide? And when they answer yes I ask why & as to...

Sorry Ian, did not mean to offend you!
My point is simple & that is how did this " chemical thing " get to this point???
All I hear is " no testing required " as to the effects on bees!
Yet here...

Lakebilly, sorry to hear of your loss but it seems to be more of the norm now a days than not.
I sure hope you have not fallen old & forgetful as many of us beeks have in the past year or so & no...

Rather silly I feel to treat this as a management or for that thought a mismanagement issue untill we can isolate the real problem.
With that said I have no idea as to were we even start after...

Sorry!!!
I forgot the lazy part!

Gota remember Kilocharlie it's because we have almost all forgot how to take care of our bees.
The wording "actions resulting from external peril" does not at all belong in this topic what so ever. ...

Keith,
I find it interesting that you produce a specialty product that you sell to beekeepers and then inturn do not attend such meetings to promote your wares.
I would think that would be an easy...

So Keith tell me if I am wrong with the following assement.
Your theory is that the the 100's of thousands of dead bee hives in the country this fall & winter are due mainly to operator error?

Keith
Please explain

Ask them as to how many tons of fungicide used in the past 5 years and the amount of increase in those products per year, if they will even talk about it.

The all plastic frames make a heck of a racket when run thru our Dakota Gunness & the older frames would not take the flails beating on them.
Wood frames with plastic inserts is all we ever use with...

Good points by the 3 of ya!
Very smart & well put in perspective!

I have been reading the MAP-21 Amendments as I write this & it is probably something that one would not end up on the good side of Johnnie Law when you get in to the facts with the officer as to him...

What was the truck plated at & did you have farm tags for plates???

Intresting Kilocharlie!
Beltsville did not want a thing to do with my samples & they told me to contact a USDA lab in South Carolina.
I asked if they wanted any of the samples in alcohol and was...

I have my ideas & thoughts but can not prove any of it!
Darn tough to prove when the tests are negitive!

We over winter & 2010 to 2011 losses were around 15%.
2011 to 2012 winter loss was below 4%.
As of today our winter loss is close to 50%.
We start our winter loss count about 1 month after we...

It is amazing to as to all the calls from all across the great USA!!
People picking up 1drum to what ever they can safely haul.
The bottom line is there is no real quality honey to be purchased in...

NO JAIL TIME????
Intresting!!!
The chance to meet " BUBBA " in person & interact some how seems to put maybe some teeth into the law other than a fine might.
I would be intrested as to what kind...

Loss of reputation???
I am getting old & forgetful but seems to me, I think just maybe, have not some of these names been in the news before in the past years for the same type of deal???

Most of the drums net at 625#
We now only now fill but to 2 inches from the top for dumping purposes.
$2.10 a pound would make the $1300.+ mark plus the drum.

As I said before " Wow "
Starting my 35th year in the bees & we had no idea there are so many little mom & pop honey packers in the business. Guess we live a sheltered life here in Nebraska!
One...