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    Re: Extractor-less honey by- "Honey Flow" - Flow Hive

    The IndieGoGo campaign is in it's final hours with over $12M raised from more than 35,000 supporters.

    Impressive, wherever things go from here...
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    Re: Extractor-less honey by- "Honey Flow"

    What perk did you end up supporting?
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    Re: Extractor-less honey by- "Honey Flow" - Flow Hive

    Over $11M with 3 days remaining...

    Over 31,000 supporters and 1400 Flow Hives remaining to sell - they could just make it over $12M if the interest level sustains...
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    Re: Extractor-less honey by- "Honey Flow" - Flow Hive

    I agree that representation was disingenuous and one of the only things I've seen out of these folks that has set off warning flags.

    While at the beginning when they trying to raise $70,000 to...
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    Re: Extractor-less honey by- "Honey Flow" - Flow Hive

    My apologies - I thought you were talking about the vitriol coming from the people who thought it was absurdly priced (which it is if they truly want to revolutionize the beekeeping industry as they...
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    Re: Extractor-less honey by- "Honey Flow" - Flow Hive

    They would have lost money at that price and they appear to be much smarter than that.

    I've already shared my views that in high 'commercial beekeeping' volumes, these Flow Frames can be much less...
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    Re: Extractor-less honey by- "Honey Flow" - Flow Hive

    Just ran into this: http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/30166-3-reasons-to-go-against-the-flow-hive#

    (three reasons to go against the flow hive)
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    Re: Extractor-less honey by- "Honey Flow" - Flow Hive

    They say that crystallized honey will not prevent the mechanism from working but that the crystallized honey does not flow out. But the cappings get cracked and so the bees clean out the...
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    They say that crystallized honey will not prevent the mechanism from working but that the crystallized honey does not flow out. But the cappings get cracked and so the bees clean out the...
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    Re: Extractor-less honey by- "Honey Flow" - Flow Hive

    Michael Bush came out to teach a queen-rearing workshop that I helped him coordinate and over dinner afterwords (with Odfrank), we discussed the Flow Hive and Michael shared his view that it was...
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    Re: Extractor-less honey by- "Honey Flow" - Flow Hive

    Wow. They just hit $10M (and close to 28,000 supporters). That means over $1.3M raised in under a week and they still have 7 days to go.

    It's pretty much a done-deal that Flow will be the 5th...
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    Re: Extractor-less honey by- "Honey Flow" - Flow Hive

    Now at over $9M and 25.4K supporters with 10 days left to go... If they maintain this pace through the to the end, they will break past $10M :eek:
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    Re: Extractor-less honey by- "Honey Flow" - Flow Hive

    I have to agree - getting 25,000 new beeks started is an achievement, and if they are engaging with the more experienced beeks near them, it will result in some worthwhile increase in the hobbiest...
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    Re: Extractor-less honey by- "Honey Flow" - Flow Hive

    Wow, they made it there in a bit over 24 hours. 25,000 supporters, close to $9M in donations, and the 6th most successful crowd-funding project ever.

    And with 10 days more to go, breaking above...
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    Re: Extractor-less honey by- "Honey Flow" - Flow Hive

    Actually, #5 on that list, Ubuntu Edge, was unsuccessful (they set a target of $32M and failed, 'only' raising $12.8M, which probably means that the funds were sent back).

    So at $8.65M raised...
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    Re: Extractor-less honey by- "Honey Flow" - Flow Hive

    My read is much like yours.

    This campaign has been so successful that they will get rich, pay for all of the molds and the rest of the production pipeline, and spend this year getting through the...
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    Re: Extractor-less honey by- "Honey Flow"

    He raises a lot of very good points - most of which may or may not be valid, but we won't know for at least 18-24 months...

    But in any case, I believe it is exceedingly likely that there will be a...
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    Re: Extractor-less honey by- "Honey Flow"

    Sorry, no, didn't mean to cause confusion.

    Mann-Lake DOES NOT sell the Flow Hive.

    Mann-Lake DOES sell a basic one-box 8-frame Lang hive set-up for $85 (assembled).

    The 1-box Flow Frame honey...
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    Re: Extractor-less honey by- "Honey Flow"

    A full 8-frame hive is $600 + $88 shipping. I believe that is unassembled brood box and super, bottom board, English-style (peaked) top cover, 8 unassembled foundation frames for the brood box, and...
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    Re: Extractor-less honey by- "Honey Flow"

    The short answer is $400 + $88 shipping to the U.S. for 7 Flow Frames (which are enough to fill a single 10-frame Lang deep since they are 2" wide).

    Or about $60-70 per frame (w/ w/o shipping to...
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    Re: Extractor-less honey by- "Honey Flow" - Flow Hive

    Every business I've involved in has been profitable and sustainable, so I think that's not the key point.

    The key point is what business.

    Higher volumes = lower manufacturing costs.

    Lower...
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    Re: Extractor-less honey by- "Honey Flow" - Flow Hive

    If you are correct, the same economics would apply to the Honey Super Cell frames. In following the same manufacturing flow (including shipping) as HSC uses, they should able to sell in kit form...
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    Re: Extractor-less honey by- "Honey Flow" - Flow Hive

    Absolutely - complete speculation. If enough people want to keep paying $600 + shipping for a modified Lang Deep and 7 of these frames, the price is very likely to stay close to that (though...
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    Re: Extractor-less honey by- "Honey Flow" - Flow Hive

    The suits not a bad deal, but you can only get it once you pay shipping on a flow hive perk (which means you have first donate at least $230 to be eligible to order the suit...).

    How much have you...
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    Re: Extractor-less honey by- "Honey Flow" - Flow Hive

    Well, Flow Hive just extended the IndieGoGo campaign for another two weeks to April 19th: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/flow-hive-honey-on-tap-directly-from-your-beehive#activity

    They have...
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