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    Sticky: Re: squarepeg 2015 treatment free experience

    Yes, I'd be tempted to go with that too! Add in robbing of little ones... let them have a year to see what happens.

    I can't help thinking though that the harsher test of nature knows better -...
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    Sticky: Re: squarepeg 2015 treatment free experience

    SP, I think the decision here, and onward, over how to rate this quessn is an interesting one. Its the sort of thing that exercises me anyhow. Given that she'd had since last June to build a colony...
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    Re: Who is NOT small cell but successful?

    I haven't measured any Alistair, but I've seen lot of visible variation in nests and bee sizes and types. Basically my bees are all over the place. I'll probably look closer at some point, starting...
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    Re: Who is NOT small cell but successful?

    I suspect I'll be outside your category of 'successful beekeeper' (spec?) but I go for natural comb, as do many others. Michael Bush has recently said here he make little distinction.

    I suspect...
  5. Re: Conventional Beekeepers Bashing on Treatment Free Beekeepers

    Of course. I could have phrased the sentence better Graham, as I think I've admitted to you before before. Read in context however its clear that what is intended is that without attending to this...
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    If you don't engage you'll never know when that's happening. I hold a ba in philosphy - which is more or less dialectic by another name - I do know how to argue. I often have good exchanges here in...
  7. Re: Conventional Beekeepers Bashing on Treatment Free Beekeepers

    Wiki:

    "Dialectic (also dialectics and the dialectical method), from Ancient Greek διαλεκτική, is a method of argument for resolving disagreement that has been central to European and Indian...
  8. Re: Conventional Beekeepers Bashing on Treatment Free Beekeepers

    Sorry Dan. It looked to me for a moment like you were suggesting treating as a method for keeping bees treatment free.

    Mike (UK)
  9. Re: Conventional Beekeepers Bashing on Treatment Free Beekeepers

    Yes, with the (preferably well founded) hope that the new queen would be more resistant than the last :)



    The normal/abnormal mite loads business was intended to draw attention to the fact that...
  10. Re: Conventional Beekeepers Bashing on Treatment Free Beekeepers

    Find some bees that might have a measure of resistance, monitor them and if the mites loads become normal, treat them. That's treatment free beekeeping?

    Mike (UK)
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    Unless you have very good reasons to think your present stock has a good measure of resistance, I'd consider starting by renewing all or most of your queens from demonstrated resistant stock - if you...
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    Re: My TF Trial is over - for the time being

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    I take notes and enter them to a spreadsheet. This tells me how many days to next visit, and what to take. I can automatically reorder the data to make to make a priority list. I changed...
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    Re: Looking for Treatment-Free Study

    I love this quote Michael, thank you:

    ""Bees that combine genuine hardiness, mite-resistance and productivity can only be maintained in the long run by having many hundreds of colonies constantly...
  14. Re: Conventional Beekeepers Bashing on Treatment Free Beekeepers

    I agree. We just need terms that are cognisant of the spectrum of influence, rather than the binary choice 'open mating/closed mating'.

    Just like the description 'tf beekeeper' needs more...
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    I think I agree with all that Ian, roughly. Were you agreeing or disagreeing about something I'd said?

    My quibble is the idea that it is possibe to have a closed breeding program with bees...
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    You are missing the central point Joel. It is those who treat, thus prolonging the agony for everyone, who are misguided. They are the problem.

    Every time you act in a way that results in...
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    Sticky: Re: squarepeg 2015 treatment free experience

    I'm thinking this will now be off-topic - perhaps worthy of a new thread?

    There is a subsequent paper by most of the same authors which is more accessible. It also has an outline of the...
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    Re: bispham's causal chain

    Back to the top. There never really is one cause, there's a chain of causes stretching all the way back to the Big Bang (assuming that account is sound). The universe is, in real sense, nothing...
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    Re: bispham's causal chain

    Oh this is beautiful :) No wonder you didn't want to quote it! From the Abstract, the very first paragraph of the paper:

    "The globally distributed ectoparasite Varroa destructor is a vector for...
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    Re: bispham's causal chain

    Jonathan,

    I'm not sure I've disgreed with that. What is your (and/or) JW's point?

    To be clear my position is:

    1)Following Carrick, my post #44, and More et al, #56 mites tend to vector...
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    Re: bispham's causal chain

    Jonathan,

    Millions and millions of viruses exist at background levels almost everywhere you can to imagine. On your skin and mine, and on bees skin. Millions of different strains and substrains,...
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    Re: bispham's causal chain

    Yes. As I just explained, we've had our wires crossed a little. I apologise for not picking up sooner with that. Let's try to see what separates us:

    1) In many (most?) cases of dwv the primary...
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    Re: bispham's causal chain

    What hypotheses are being put forward to explain that?

    Damage done prior to treatment? High ambient viral loads? Decreasing innate defences due to removal of adaptive pressure?

    A combination...
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    Re: bispham's causal chain

    Good to hear you acknowlege that.



    That's not a fact: its your position John.

    It isn't mine. Or, lets be fairer: I would load the desiderata differently to you. Breeding is an art - you...
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    Re: bispham's causal chain

    "One of the serious problems caused by Varroa is the transmission of viruses to honey bees which cause deadly diseases. Viruses found in honey bees have been known to scientists for 50 years and were...
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