Practical recommendation WLC, welcome back.
Good thread folks.
Secondly, "Ask Questions Here" is a thread for me to answer questions.
So if you can somehow interpret that to mean that Jim Lyon, a commercial treating and feeding beekeeper, ought to be answering questions addressed to me, you're missing something.Quote:
But what I can do and what I like to do is answer questions. So I want to give everybody the free and explicit opportunity to ask serious questions. If you want to be treatment-free, or if you are weighing your options, ask away. I want to help you. I'm not going to be answering challenges or defending my methods or viewpoint. I want to help you if you want to be helped. I want to tell you what you want to know, not what you want to hear. I had tons of questions and many of them will be the same ones you are asking now. You can even go back to 2003 and see them for yourself in the archives.
Just a guess - but most likely there are also other variations in nutrients between different forage sources - vitamins, minerals, different sugars. When there is a dearth, bees will take whatever they can find from any source - including residue from soft drink containers. Bee keepers feeding HFCS is surely not the only cause of malnutrition for bees.
So, when I said malnutrition that is what I meant - improper, or inadequate nutrition including starvation, but not exclusively starvation. And after looking it up in several sources I am fairly confident that I was using the word correctly.
But all that being said, feel free to point out any spelling or punctuation errors that I make while you are at it. Please allow me to apologize in advance - I'm sure there are plenty of them.
I've seen you post there.
And nobody had a problem with it.
The only reaction I've seen is when you offered to run someone's hives for them, and that was rejected, but in good humour.
Bottom line, you feel free to post there, and you do post there.
So, what's Step 2?
Malnutrition can occur when Bees collect and consume poor quality pollen. In our area the summer titi bush is an example. If you live in an area of lots of summer titi your bees will forage on it. Feeding it to larva results in "purple Brood". Which ends in dead pupae from poor nutritional value if the summer titi. Look it up if you wish.
The strange thing is that a sister plant, the spring titi is excellent forage and nectar producing plant.
Something can starve to death eating a poor nutritional value food. A root plant in Africa comes to mind as does cellulose.
And no, I do not feel free to post there because of the aforementioned reason (Jim Lyon and the other commercial beekeepers who do not welcome any not perceived to be of their fraternity). I have asked for a forum related to non-commercial for profit beekeeping, and the idea received a lot of support, but it has been forgotten.
I haven't seen you being made unwelcome, but even if you have been it is untrue to say you don't post there.
While you might have your opinions about who can post where, end of day that will be for the moderator to decide, and that will be based on content rather than who it is.
Oh thanks for telling me what the straw man is. Now I'll be able to put a name on it when someone does it to me!
Or, maybe that's not a good thing. :)
I am pretty sure folks aren't checking into the treatment free forum to hear about Sol's perceived problems with posting on the commercial forum nor do they want to hear my defense. My only comment would be that former moderators should know better than anyone that criticism of moderation has never been tolerated on this or any other forum.
trying to control the content and stifling input from others didn't work, remember?
i felt that asking someone to move on because their approach is different than yours was wrong and violated the spirit of the free exchange of ideas that makes beesource what it is.
maybe your personal blogspot is the place for what you would like this thread to be.
I'm not criticizing moderation, I'm simply saying there is none. Surely if there was, there would be some pretty obvious evidence.
Bit touchy today?
My understanding when someone says they do not feel free to do something, is that they don't do it. If I said I wasn't free to do something, that's what I would mean.
You do do it, why not just fess up instead of insinuating otherwise?
My point is, you post there, so don't get wound up if they post in some other place.