I'd like to see someone put that on their label and tell us what happens.Quote:
Originally Posted by brooksbeefarm
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I'd like to see someone put that on their label and tell us what happens.Quote:
Originally Posted by brooksbeefarm
I'm not aware of your Party affiliation and it doesn't matter anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by BMAC
My party affiliation used to revolve around bon fires.
deKnow,i'm not talking about eating x amount of honey to get my daily vit. intake? I'm talking the nutritional value of Raw honey over Pasteurized honey, we've seen the nutritional value of Raw honey, now show me the nutritional value of Pasteurized honey?
sqkcrk, Why couldn't i put fat free and cholesterol free on my labels? packers have been putting Pure Clover honey on their pasteurized honey and getting away with it.
This thread brings a whole new meaning to "splitting hairs."
There are Laws about this sort of thing. I can't quote them. But, there is a reason wy you won't see such things stated on labels on grocery store shelves.Quote:
Originally Posted by brooksbeefarm
Check w/ your State Labeling Authority. State Weights and Measures or Dept. of Ag maybe?
make a resolution at your next association meeting, to form a committee to act against this practice of labeling pasteurized clover honeyQuote:
Originally Posted by brooksbeefarm
You will get laughed out of the room
Nutrition facts on containers that I buy from my local bee supply store.
Per 1 Tbsp (20g)
Calories 60
Fat 0g
Carbs. 17g
Protein 0g
Not a significant source of saturated fat, trans fat, cholesterol, sodium, fibre, vitamin A, vitamin C, calcium or iron.
Huh, whadda ya know.
My main point is about misinformation of consumers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rader Sidetrack
Please look into the BeeMaid MOTTO’s “Hive to Home” Why a packer as the main component is missing?
http://hivetohome.beemaid.com/
Let’s find the answer.
“…BeeMaid is one of the few North American packers..." (Ian – Post # 173)
But I know two Canadian Packers, related to the BeeMaid:
Alberta Honey Producers processes and packages honey for its members.
http://www.beemaid.com/alberta-honey-producers
Manitoba Honey Cooperative processes and packages honey for its members and purchases raw wax.
http://www.beemaid.com/manitoba-honey-producers
Therefore I stated : “The Bee Maid Honey is just a distributor. I think you forgot the Packager - HACCP.”
It was my short sentence with the “-“ symbol, therefore I also posted the quoted statement with the link for detailed info”: “Bee Maid Honey is proud that it’s honey processing and packing operations are HACCP recognized by the Canadian Food Inspection Agency (CFIA).” http://www.beemaid.com/bulk-ingredient
It's clear - packers work under some standards.
Boris Romanov
P.S.
“Bee Maid Honey Limited is owned jointly and equally by Alberta Honey Producers
Co-operative Limited and Manitoba Cooperative Honey Producers Limited. Bee Maid
Honey is owned by the Member beekeepers in western Canada.
The Directors of the two Co-operatives are also the Directors of Bee Maid. The
Directors appoint and direct the Management of Bee Maid Honey Limited. Bee
Maid receives the revenue from all processed honey sales and is responsible for
paying the costs of honey containers, processing, freight, commissions, advertising
and all other related expenses. The net proceeds are then returned to the
Co-operatives on a shared basis.
Should either Co-operative have honey beyond that which is required by Bee Maid
to fill its processed honey market, the Co-operative may sell this honey through as
raw bulk honey. The net revenue from this honey is returned to the Co-operative
supplying the honey.”
http://www.beemaid.com/files/AHPOper...licyManual.pdf
You have absolutely no idea what your talking about Boris,
I think your eyes are crossing when your reading all this stuff.
BeeMaid is the actual packing company to which it buys all its honey from the Manitoba and Alberta Honey Producers. Its a Cooperative.
Its owned by the beekeepers of western Canada, ITS A COOPERATIVE
everything is on the website, everything is clear and transparent , all the honey supplied to BeeMaid is from the beekeeper either from the Manitoba or Alberta members
HACCP is something completely different, is third party auditing. It has nothing to do with packing honey, its a facility standard. I believe is North American wide, its way larger than something your able to comprehend Boris
Do you want me to repeat that Boris?
I wish you could see through you thick glasses,
this packer to which I am a member of, is very proactive with its standards, quality, and currently enacting producer CFIA registration which provides a system of tractability
Very exciting stuff
Ian,
Once again.
Please look into the BeeMaid's MOTTO: “Hive to Home” This is the FALSE statement!
Why a packer as the main component is missing?
After processing is not ethical to call/label a final product as HONEY - it's PROCESSED HONEY - forever liquid substance!
Boris Romanov
Isn't 37C the mean internal temperature of a human body? Are those components similarly lost as soon as they enter the human body?Quote:
Did you read that heating (pasteurizing) honey up to 37 C or 99F causes loss of nearly 200 components ... -brooksbeefarm
Along those same lines, doesn't bearding on hives begin at around 37C to 38C? Why wouldn't those components be destroyed right in the hives under those conditions?
I'll confess I'm ignorant on what these sorts of enzymes do physiologically in the human body. Why is consuming invertase so important or helpful?Quote:
Heating up to 40 C or104 F destroys invertase an important enzyme. -brooksbeefarm
Again,
They are fully certified with HACCP, and currently in the process of fully registering its membership with CFIA. Right now, they are packing honey on the shelf all around the world which has the ability of tractability from that store shelf right back to the beekeeper, and the hives the honey came from.
Hive to Home,
Boris, what cant you understand ?
in the scale of 15,000,000 lbs plus
and capturing the market place
Ian,
I didn't ask you about certification, but I asked you about misinformation of consumers.
Therefore I cannot accept your reply. Please read my post #233 more carefully.
Boris Romanov
there is no misinformation
this whole idea that as soon as honey is sent through a machine it no longer is honey is absolutely ridiculous
ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS
I hope people are seeing the irony in this conversation. Hint: Bee Maid IS the beekeeper.
Jim, Im hitting my head against the wall , I got to stop, its starting to hurt,....
Boris ..... got it..... ?
Because I cant explain it again