One thing I don't see is anyone recommending these people wanting bees or queens to talk to other Beekeepers in their area...
Instead of asking these people from all over the world why don't you just talk to some guys/girls in your local club.. Find out what's working for them.. You need to be finding stock that can handle winters in your area and bees that have over wintered in Jersey not California..
The problem is that most in my area get their packages from California because they can get a bulk deal. No carnis however. There is a local guy that I have bought nucs from and he labeled them as carnis. I wasn't impressed with the nucs he sold me last year and his queens come from Hawaii. So....these Shamrock guys seem like a plan to me if some here have had luck with them.
There are very few bk in NJ that offer NJ survivor stock and those that do, many of them give you 3# of survivo bees with a queen from somewhere else.
Happy New Year everyone~!~
Chris in NJ
Have you considered using local bees to get started and then requeening with a Carniolan queen some time before Winter? Forgive me for stating the obvious here, but in four to six weeks after introducing a new Carniolan queen, all the bees will all be Carniolan and,hopefully, exhibit the characteristics you want. HTH :)
Ya but then I have to buy queens. I would rather buy the breed that I want first. Now I could rear my own queens from my carni stock, but I don't feel as though I have a good carni to graft off of. My carnis have swarmed. I have a couple, but they one is feisty and the other had chalkbrood. Then again thus far the queens that my bees have made haven't been very dark, which leaves me to believe that Italians are common around here.
Italians are common everywhere the bees I mean.