"treatment treadmill"

Barry…I believe that you have stepped onto a different type of treadmill here….the final word treadmill. The dialog will swirl in semantic circles until motion sickness sets in. I have first hand experience. I suggest that you step off before you need a barf bag. ;)

Very Funny! :D

indeed! :D

Great analogy Dan I was a little surprised myself that Barry got suckered into that "semantic treadmill".

The hive gets contaminated from bees bringing in stuff anyway. Maybe Barry needed some exercise and thought the treadmill would help.

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Originally Posted by JRG13

The hive gets contaminated from bees bringing in stuff anyway.

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Not my bees! The entrance to each of my hives is equipped with a full bee body scanner and contamination sensors. These will be required for all hives soon…..one of those food security things.
Decontamination units are optional.

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Originally Posted by beemandan

I suggest that you step off before you need a barf bag. ;)

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Thanks Dan, I just threw the baton to Oldtimer whether he wanted it or not! :p

good move barry, and thanks for running interference for me!

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Originally Posted by jim lyon

Great analogy Dan I was a little surprised myself that Barry got suckered into that "semantic treadmill".

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Yeah, I know, but I just couldn't stand seeing another Aceism go unchallenged as if it was fact. I'm the sucker this time.

Yup if you were a fish you would be in the landing net by now but it did provide some entertainment and reenforced some lessons for the rest of us. :)

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Originally Posted by Barry

Yeah, I know, but I just couldn't stand seeing another Aceism go unchallenged as if it was fact. I'm the sucker this time.

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The problem came about because you didn't use enough emoticons in your replies to Ace. :lookout:
These little babies are the electronic alternative to garlic!:ws:
:digging: :lpf:

I see you're late to the party. Made me get involved. Next time, please check the forum every hour! :D

Our local weather forecast for Monday is 80% chance of precipitation.
:ws:

So I'll likely be indoors Monday, if it does rain. I'll take a turn at guard duty. :D

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please check the forum every hour! :D

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Sort of reminds me of Rodney Dangerfield in Back to School.
‘Waitress…bring us a pitcher of beer every thirty minutes until the first one of us passes out….then bring one every fifteen minutes.’
I loved that guy!
(it probably was first every fifteen minutes, then five....but you get the idea)

So what if your treatment is a form of energy, and not a chemical. Does it create a "treadmill? It does not leave a residue?

Crazy Roland

Roland are you using the mite zapper? John

Roland is selecting for mites which can withstand drone brood scratching.

Scratching capped drone brood every 14 days is what Roland means by a form of energy.

Or radiation for CCD?

Irradiation could do that I guess. I was just answering the question from knowing what Roland does.

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Originally Posted by Oldtimer

So Ace. If you bought a hive that had been treated with Formic Acid 6 months ago, how would chemical contamination prevent you attempting chemical free beekeeping?

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I am not a chemist but I do know that when high concentrations of a chemical are used the chemical combines with other components that may remain. Yes the formic acid may evaporate but what did it leave behind? Do you have proof that there are no residuals? I realize that formic acid may be a soft chemical by itself and could possible be used with out long lasting effects in the equipment but is there a beekeeper who treats only using formic acid? I doubt it. It is like saying I smoke but but I don't inhale.