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08-16-2012, 12:02 AM
Hoosier

5:3 fall sugar water mix

Thought someone else might need this, Joe

5:3 FALL SUGAR WATER MIX

Five Parts SUGAR TO Three parts WATER

4# SUGAR (64 OUNCES) 2 ½# WATER39 OZ.+/- 1 ¼ QUARTS
5# SUGAR (80 OUNCES) 3# WATER 48 OZ. 1 ½ QUARTS
8# SUGAR (128 OUNCES) 5# WATER 80 OZ. +/- 2 ½ QUARTS
9# SUGAR (144 OUNCES) 5½# WATER 90 OZ. +/- 2 ¾ QUARTS
10# SUGAR (160 OUNCES) 6# WATER 96 OZ. 3 QUARTS

Note: The sugar plus the water makes slightly more than twice the water, e.g., 5 pounds of sugar plus 1 1/2 quarts of water will produce about 3 1/4 cups of sugar water.

Thanks to Mike Bush for suggesting my making 5:3 ratio rather than 2:1 for fall feeding; this is working much better.
08-16-2012, 06:10 AM
AkDan

Re: 5:3 fall sugar water mix

my bees are going to town on this!

Taking a 5lb bag and 3 pint jars of hot water....working like a champ!
08-16-2012, 06:43 AM
krad1964

Re: 5:3 fall sugar water mix

What problem does 5:3 solve that is caused by 2:1? If it just works better, what specifically works better? Thanks.
08-16-2012, 10:39 AM
Hoosier

Re: 5:3 fall sugar water mix

Quote:

Originally Posted by krad1964

What problem does 5:3 solve that is caused by 2:1? If it just works better, what specifically works better? Thanks.

It's easier to get it all dissolved, and after a few days there are no signs of crystallizing.
08-16-2012, 11:18 AM
toekneepea

Re: 5:3 fall sugar water mix

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoosier

It's easier to get it all dissolved, and after a few days there are no signs of crystallizing.

5:3 won't crystallize all the way down to 32 degrees Fahrenheit (0 Celsius)

Tony P.
08-16-2012, 12:05 PM
krad1964

Re: 5:3 fall sugar water mix

Thanks. I'll give it a try. Looks like:

25# SUGAR - 15# WATER - 7.5 QUARTS
08-16-2012, 12:28 PM
Hoosier

Re: 5:3 fall sugar water mix

Quote:

Originally Posted by krad1964

Thanks. I'll give it a try. Looks like:

25# SUGAR - 15# WATER - 7.5 QUARTS

Yep, and it ought to make about two gallons for you. Be sure that it boils somewhat as you stir it.
08-16-2012, 12:40 PM
JYawn

Re: 5:3 fall sugar water mix

Anyone know how close just using a quart mason jar for measurement would get this ratio???

Example... 5 quarts Sugar;3 quarts Water.

I'm thinking it's got to be pretty close but not exact.
08-16-2012, 01:46 PM
Kelbor

Re: 5:3 fall sugar water mix

I would weigh the sugar instead of measure it...I think that is what is meant in the recipe (though Im not sure how much a quart of sugar weighs....)
08-16-2012, 02:06 PM
mgolden

Re: 5:3 fall sugar water mix

Quart of sugar = 26.6 ounces

Quart of water = 32 ounces

This is full to the top of the jar.

So for a 5:3 need 5 quart of sugar(133 ounces) and 2 1/2 quart of water(80 ounces)
08-17-2012, 03:49 PM
shannonswyatt

Re: 5:3 fall sugar water mix

OK, so it sounds like you can do 2 cups of sugar to one of water, and just multiply it to your needs. Of course I was taught math in a public school, so there you go.
08-17-2012, 06:08 PM
Keth Comollo

Re: 5:3 fall sugar water mix

My tap water must be too hot as I can make 2:1 all day long without having to boil anything.
08-17-2012, 07:16 PM
Myron Denny

Re: 5:3 fall sugar water mix

Michael Bush does all the figuring for you on this. Go to Bush Bee Farm:
http://www.bushfarms.com/beesfeeding.htm#ratios
08-18-2012, 03:36 AM
Hoosier

Re: 5:3 fall sugar water mix

Quote:

Originally Posted by Myron Denny

Michael Bush does all the figuring for you on this. Go to Bush Bee Farm:
http://www.bushfarms.com/beesfeeding.htm#ratios

And on that page Michael Bush says, " I use more like 5:3 (sugar:water) all the time. It keeps better than 1:1 and is easier to dissolve than 2:1."
08-21-2012, 12:58 AM
Hoosier

Re: 5:3 fall sugar water mix

Quote:

Originally Posted by mgolden

Quart of sugar = 26.6 ounces

Quart of water = 32 ounces

This is full to the top of the jar.

So for a 5:3 need 5 quart of sugar(133 ounces) and 2 1/2 quart of water(80 ounces)

Not really:
One cup of sugar weighs 220 grams
/One quart of sugar weighs 880 grams = 31.04077 ounces (almost 2 pounds)
5 X 31.04 = 155.2 ounces of sugar (almost 10 pounds) SO 3 X 31 = 93 ounces or about 3 quarts of water
08-21-2012, 01:51 AM
Hoosier

Re: 5:3 fall sugar water mix

Quote:

Originally Posted by shannonswyatt

OK, so it sounds like you can do 2 cups of sugar to one of water, and just multiply it to your needs. Of course I was taught math in a public school, so there you go.

Not really:
1 cup of sugar=220 grams
2 cups of sugar=440 grams = 15.52 ounces (almost one pound)
1 cup of water= 8 ounces=227 grams= (1/2 pound) so You would be doing a 2:1 mix not a 5:3
You could do 2 cups of sugar with 9.3 ounces (264 grams) of water; that would give you a 5:3 ratio.
08-21-2012, 02:09 AM
Hoosier

Re: 5:3 fall sugar water mix

Quote:

Originally Posted by JYawn

Anyone know how close just using a quart mason jar for measurement would get this ratio???

Example... 5 quarts Sugar;3 quarts Water.

I'm thinking it's got to be pretty close but not exact.

Yep, close enough.
08-21-2012, 04:57 AM
shannonswyatt

Re: 5:3 fall sugar water mix

Math is hard, my head hurts. Why can't they make sugar weigh as much as water? <grin>
08-21-2012, 08:58 AM
mgolden

Re: 5:3 fall sugar water mix

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoosier

Not really:
One cup of sugar weighs 220 grams
/One quart of sugar weighs 880 grams = 31.04077 ounces (almost 2 pounds)
5 X 31.04 = 155.2 ounces of sugar (almost 10 pounds) SO 3 X 31 = 93 ounces or about 3 quarts of water

Not worthy of a response, but go weigh a quart completely full of water and a quart completely full of sugar, as I did.

shannonswyatt nails it - multiples of 2 cups of sugar to 1 cup of water will make very close to 5:3 sysrup mixture.

Simpler yet, is two volumes of sugar to one volume of water gives very close to 5:3.
08-21-2012, 09:27 AM
shannonswyatt

Re: 5:3 fall sugar water mix

Woo hoo! I got one right!

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