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hello,
I've been building my own boxes and want to start building frames I'm just trying to figure out what I should be using for lumber size and how to best utilize the boards.
I cant get any pine boards 1 3/8 thick so do i just use 3/4 and crosscut the 1 3/8 out of that then rip them in half?
thanks
Mike
Here give this a look. Hope it helps.
http://www.beesource.com/build-it-yo...t-type-frames/
You can plane an eighth off of 2x stock and then rip it, or, rip it then trim the strips before cutting them to length. I have found that unless you just enjoy the work, or you get your lumber free, its more cost effective to just buy frames and put them together yourself.
yea actually as far as the frames are concerned, mann lake sells them for .79 each in quantity. there's no way i could build them for that especially if you factor in the time. I will stick with just making boxes. i just hate needing something and having to wait to receive it.
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I made a hundred frames this year from scrap 2 x material. It worked great. I simplified the plans posted in this thread. It takes some time but saved me some money. if i make the top bars from onex material and the rest from scraps it will cost me 15 cents per frame. Plus time. Which i have extra time in the winter.x
If your time is worth zero and you have free wood and you enjoy making frames, then ... here is how I do it.
http://picasaweb.google.com/MichaelJ...eeHive4302010#
If you are still thinking about making your own frames, you should really get a life. :applause:
mgalimbe I make my own boxes too and Have Tons of off cuts at work so i've made alot of parts for them but for the time it takes...Spending the $$ and assembling only seems to be way more life productive. If you have spare time its not super horrible...just alot of repetitive cuts that will make you go dizzy if you are making a large amount. Also i dont like the solid sides all the way down...find the bees glue that together to much...but again one more step ya gotta take if you want to make them look exactly like a ordered frame...
I enjoy making them, don't think I'm saving much money, but it's fun.
I take a 2x something, cut an angled slot in it to make the taper for the end, cut slices to width ( 1 1/16 or 7/8, depending), then split each slice in half. A bit thinner than 3/4" that way if you use a table saw, but with a band saw you are very close.
A few cuts with a dado blade and you have your top bar. If you want a wedge, two more passes on the table saw does that, otherwise one pass for the slot.
Bottom bars I cut from scrap, end bars I cut from 2x stock planed down to width (1 3/8 or 1 1/4). I then cut a slot for the top bar with a dado blade, cut the two slots in the other end, and slice them up. Holes for wire I hand drill, and they assemble like factory frames.
I tend to get set up and run a pile -- five or six chunks of 2x6, cut to lenght, cut the slots, set up and cut the width, set up and cut them apart, set up the dado and cut the bottom slot, reset and cut the sides, etc. That way you just run one pile of parts through into another pile, change the setup and do the next step from one pile to the other.
Done in batches it doesn't take too long, did enough for all my boxes in a couple evenings.
Again, you won't save much money. You can, however, make custom frames. I want to use all 1 1/4" frames in the brood nest, and trimming down commercial 1 3/8" frames leaves too little room between the bars.
Peter