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Well, clearly you should contact the Russell Nebraska sub-producer. If you don't already have that contact info, from this thread:Quote:
Originally Posted by whalers
http://www.beesource.com/forums/show...fraud&p=899724
in post #201, you should email russellapiariesnebraska@gmail.com to get your situation resolved.
You may get queens, but are they "moonbeams" or just some random queen with a name made up by a crook?Quote:
Originally Posted by whalers
The Russel State sites are being very careful to not overextend themselves from what I have seen. You should be all set.
I am having a hard time with this thread after reading the other thread titled something like "Robert Russell is a crook". Aren't these two threads about the same person/company? Seems like on the other thread it was determined that Robert Russell and Robert Hughes was the same person....Plus some legal issues as well..
The sub-producer for Russell-Nebraska is Matthew. I have been swapping emails with him. Let me just say, he has likely been hurt by all this far greater than any of us and I have found him to be an upstanding individual - at least the best you can tell through email. Matthew is not the "crook" referred to in the Robert Russell thread and I hope the people reading this board will get behind Matthew, support him and help him get back on his feet.
Russell Apiaries is run/owned by Robert Lee Russell. (the alleged crook)Quote:
Originally Posted by bnm1000
He has many sub-producers who operate under his name, but are not under his control. Basically Robert franchised out his father's reputation. The sub-producers probably got burned the most. So you can be dealing with Russell Apiaries NY and not actually be dealing with Russell Apiaries (Robert Lee Russell/Hughes)
The biggest issue the sub-producers have now is that they don't know what they are selling. Robert Russell likely fabricated the strains he claimed he developed, just like he fabricated the Hughes guy.
I was going to be a back door operator for the family. No one has mentioned us. I have breeders I think lol.
I don't believe any of the sub producers are selling any of the lines of RA. Most have refunded all orders and have disassociated with him, including myself.
The BBB had him pegged:
http://www.bbb.org/mississippi/Busin...n-ms-235821158
Their website sure has changed and the forums shut down. I personally was satisfied with the few queens I received a couple of years ago and really didn't have any problems, but my belief is, when there is this much smoke, there is bound to be fire somewhere. Hope everything works out for everybody. Good luck
I need to post that the above statement that I made is wrong. Greg/Sonny *did* respond in a timely manner. I was at fault for having used a spam-collection email address for the reply to go to. After all of the recent drama regarding Robert Russell and Russell Apiaries I sincerely do not wish to falsely state anything associated with this situation. My apologies to all concerned. EdQuote:
Originally Posted by Intheswamp
sonnypemberton was just posting info from the AL site. He is not affiliated with Russell Apiaries Alabama, LLC.
Apology accepted.
Greg
In reference to post #316 on this thread:Diogenes, I see that you cross posted this to the Russell Apiaries forum and picture sites last fall with the comment that I was a "BS Sock Puppet."Quote:
Originally Posted by SideYardBees
Where are you now? Who are you now?
Also wonder what happened to Ted K, that commercial beekeeper who was working with RR. He certainly disappeared. Was he another alias of RR?
Was he the guy that was wanting true feral bees for developing survivor strain genetics. Seems like he was the one claiming to have taken swarms off of mountains and brought swarms out of the wilderness by kayak. Wasn't he asking RA members to call him with anything they had that showed remarkable survivor traits for his project?Quote:
Originally Posted by camero7
No he was the guy from Alabama who claimed to have sent his crew down to help with the bees when the "tornado" struck. He also advertised nucs on this site if i remember correctly. He also had a thread about not letting bees on comb into AL and wanting to change the law. there are so many strange people involved in this it's very difficult to sort them out.
Right - where is he. Last fall he had some pretty snarky and condescending comments for me too, based on some of the questions I was asking.Quote:
Originally Posted by SideYardBees
His profile indicates that he joined last July and hasn't been active since the fall: http://www.beesource.com/forums/memb...86972-Diogenes
Search his name and you come to the thread he started - interesting re-read in light of what has happened.
Mike
Ted stopped posting long before this broke. I hope he is well. Ted is opinionated but quite legit in my mind. I know enough about him to be quite certain he wasn't involved in any way.
From the Russel forum:
Ted Kretschmann
Member
Posts: 9
I will pass on the sub producer status. I particularly do not like dealing with hobbyist beekeepers-period. I prefer to produce and sell 100 nucs at a time to someone with check or money in hand than the drabble rabble headaches that I have had with hobbyist beekeepers in the past. It is a good idea that Dr., Russell has thought of but the sub producer must be ready to handle the aggrevation that hobbyist can cause. TK
June 13, 2012 at 10:38 PM
Thanks Barry. I do remember Ted now. Given today's status with RA, Ted Kretschmann was a profit with the widom of Solomon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry