Tom, hello from just north of you, just out of curosity do you happen to know who this beekeeper is? I wounder if it's beekman?
Skinner: $125 may sound OK, but if you're coming from NC, trucking eats $40 or so, straight off the top. Theb hotels, meals, airline tickets?, Will you bring your own truck and forklift to place your bees in the orchards? These are other costs that can easily add another $20 per hive. On a side note what does it cost to place bees in and out of the marshalling yards and then get them to the almonds? Then you have the risk factors. To me it seems way simpler to go a little further south and sell nucs. This kind of situation you can control way better than sending your bees 5000 miles away. The risk factor is especially true when starting out. Can you afford to lose 100 hives if you only have 100? That could kill your will to work, demoralize you, start a fire in your belly and send you out on a rampage etc...
When I send bees very far away I try to minimize risks and at some point I ask myself can I afford to loose these bees? My willingness to send them off increases as I get closer to answering yes to a potential loss of bees. I also ask, do I think I will loose bees to theft, vandalism, ignorance? If no then off they go.
PS- Anything with beekeeping and easy does not match.
Matt, i was actualy refering to bryan beekman, are you to related? I used to work for bryan for awhile? nice guy, very nice equipment and man nice HOTRODS:cool:
Yep. Bryan is my cousin and he didn't put that ad in either. $120 per hive is leaving too much money on the table. :no:
Well, the ad went back in this morning. These guys have a lot of colonies available at that price. Not brokered out, either, California bees.
Is this the add or is there anotherone
I must have heard him incorrectly, or the grower is paying alot more than others.
If there are 544 story and a halfs (halves?) on a load and you get $125.00 per colony that comes to $68,000.00 per semi in income. Minus $20.00 per colony for handling in CA, which drops it by $10,880.00, down to $47,120.00. Minus $14,000.00 round trip for trucking ($27.?? each) which brings it down to $33,120.00, which is clearing $60.88 per colony.
So, I don't know where I got the $9.00 idea from. Must have misunderstood someone.
Did I do my math correctly?
Mark, $9, Perhaps he was talking one way and it's his brother in law doing the hauling.:D
We pay just under $5000 one way. We put between 480-512 on the truck so the cost varies but I round to $10 each way. We pay on average $20 per hive round trip. $27 from Carilinas sounds about right.
But I think your math is off. Just take per colony. $125 - $20 handling = $105 - $27 = $78.
There are usually more expenses. He probably gives them a little more TLC either before shipping or after getting to CA, pollen sub and such.
If the losses he takes out there are similar to what he would expect in the home state, that is a wash. If they are more that needs to be added to the equation.
Well, whatever it is, sending 40 hives isn't worth the trouble. I'll have to work harder next yr.
Also Mark, if your getting 544 a load, make sure someone out here keeps a eye on there weight.
Well, I'm won't, but someone will.
Well, I'm won't, but someone will.
Yep, and it will probably be a local provider of Pollen Supplement within proximity of the Great California Almond Producing Belt! :D
Well, whatever it is, sending 40 hives isn't worth the trouble.
You might be able to fill in the last pallets of a load so that you and the other,s, loading the semi can benefit!
I been reading this post and have got to wondering what is the total cost per hive on average going to the almonds, hauling to and from, feeding and pollen sub.? after all that is it really worth traveling to almonds when the price is $100 a hive, what is the base line price to make it good per hive(worth the time)?
How much are the broker fees? Unloading and loading at CA?