Placed captured swarm into tbh today. Checked them after supper and they were still there. Just got in, and every bee is gone. TB's have a strip of wax across the top of the bar. Design made following plans found on website. I didn't supply any feed. Suggestions?
Did you leave the hive in the area where you caught the swarm? If so, the scouts came back and led them to their new home. I always move a swarm to another area where the returning scouts will not find them.
That's probably what happened. Thanks for the reply. Mike
I caught a swarm last year, move it 10 miles and had it in a regular lang hive..the next day...no bees..all gone..
It's also possible that you lost the queen somehow- I actually try and spot her when removing a swarm if the swarmcatching process is messy (unlike , say, if the entire swarm is small and I get them ALL into the bucket in one shot and the queen doesnt' get a chance to go flying around in the confusion). I try and look at any remaing uncaught bees to see if she's out there before I leave the area.
THey'll disperse if there's no queen and no brood.
I think you can also spot if she's in there by what happens to any stray bees on the outside of your swarm catching box- I think the strays are more prone to land on the box and try to find a way in, rather than buzzing around and leaving. When I and my friends caught a lot of swarms it seemed like we had a sense for when something was wrong and we hadn't gotten the queen
(once youre an established beekeeper, I think giving them some brood comb (minus rival bees) with eggs/larva in it might also keep them around (and if there was reason to suspect queenlessness this might make them raise a new one), but I have only "heard" that, and havne't tried it- anyone confirm or debunk the wisdom of this?)
I got many hives as swarms and things usually went well- it's not very difficult despite my post making it sound like it might be risky.
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It sometimes takes several attempts to get a swarm to stay in a hive. Probably because you miss the queen.
I have had a few do that, it kind of surprises you when you go to see how the bees are doing and there are no bees. I think that one frame of brood or a frame of drawn comb may have helped??? On a real hot sunny day it helps to put the colony in shaded area also! Just think and plan that the next one will cooperate with your plans for them.
If I take a swarm out of tree I always try to put two or even three combs of brood in the box with them. The vast majority usually stay. If I donÂ’t put anything in there with them they just about always take off. Also, bear in mind that this is for the flighty africanized bees. I imagine it might be even more successful with the Italians and such you have up north.