View Full Version : Problem Solving for Pillar
Chef Isaac
01-03-2010, 07:16 PM
Still working on the right wick size for the 2 inch pillar. I am trying a square braided #3. Burn was great for the first hour but now the flame is low and there seems to be a lot of melted wax building up. Does that mean the wick is too small and I should try a bigger wick?
Chef Isaac
01-03-2010, 07:22 PM
I decided to trim the wick down a little while it was burning. After I did that the flame rose back up again.
why does that happen?
RDY-B
01-03-2010, 07:48 PM
use # 6 my suplier only sells #2 #4 #6 where did you find #3
heres a trouble shooter http://www.onestopcandle.com/candle/ctroubleshoot.php
RDY-B
Chef Isaac
01-03-2010, 08:08 PM
at a place called Swans Candles in WA state. Would u like their contact info?
RDY-B
01-03-2010, 08:21 PM
found it also took a snip from there web page maybe this will help-:)
Keep in mind however, that most wick sizing is based upon paraffin waxes. When you are using natural waxes such as: soy, beeswax and other vegetable based waxes, you tend to require a wick that calls for a larger diameter than what your candle is. It is highly encouraged to purchase a small amount of wick to test before making a bunch of candles. Testing is a nessacary part in proper candlemaking.
:applause: RDY-B
Chef Isaac
01-03-2010, 08:34 PM
it is normal to have to trim down the wick a couple times as it burns to make the flame burn bigger (allow more oxygen to pass through)?
RDY-B
01-03-2010, 08:36 PM
where did you get this info? RDY-B
Chef Isaac
01-03-2010, 08:38 PM
some candle makers say that if the flame is burning really light (like it is about to go out) that you should trim it a little while it burns (or put it out and then relight it the next day after trimming). This allows oxygen to flow through better.
Barry
01-03-2010, 08:45 PM
Most candles I burn (3" dia.) require the wick to be trimmed several times during the complete burn. I don't think it's uncommon at all.
Chef Isaac
01-03-2010, 08:48 PM
i wonder why it is required of pillars and not tapers. I think it might have to do with oxygen and that if the flame comes lower then the sides of the unmelted wax, it cuts off possible oxygen.
heck, I dont know but it sounds good.... :)
RDY-B
01-03-2010, 08:50 PM
barry-what size wick in your 3in -RDY-B
Barry
01-03-2010, 08:54 PM
I have no idea. They are store bought. I haven't delved into candlemaking yet. I can't remember ever burning a pillar where I didn't either have to trim the wick or trim the wax.
Chef Isaac
01-03-2010, 08:56 PM
its tough to find the right wick. a lot of trial and error.
beedeetee
01-03-2010, 08:59 PM
I am burning a 2 3/4" pillar right now with a #6. I do trim the wick if it is longer than about 1/4" before lighting it. With beeswax I think that the correct wick length is more important.
Barry
01-03-2010, 09:00 PM
What about using two or three wicks? At some point, there has to be a maximum diameter that one wick will burn effectively. I've seen candles with several wicks but usually they are around 5 or 6 inch dia.
beedeetee
01-03-2010, 09:09 PM
I have never tried more than one wick, but my largest candle is about 3" diameter. I use #6 for that. It burns about a 2" to 2.5" hole about an inch or a little more deep and then the walls start melting down to slow the candle burn rate. It keeps burning down with the 1-1.5" deep well.
I trim the wick when I notice that it is longer than about 1/4" and it seems to work well.
Chef Isaac
01-03-2010, 09:13 PM
where do you get the #6 at bee?
beedeetee
01-03-2010, 10:07 PM
I was almost positive that I got it from Betterbee. I have got most of my candle supplies from them, but I don't see it now on the website. I looked again on the side of the roll and it definitely says "#6". Betterbee has "60 ply" that they recommend for 3"+ candles. Maybe that is the same.
I might have got the #6 from Candlewic. I will look a little more and see if I can find the electronic receipt.
beedeetee
01-03-2010, 10:26 PM
I might have got it at either of these places:
http://www.onestopcandle.com
http://www.candlewic.com
Look up "square braid" and "#6". The charts are for paraffin candles and you will need to be a couple of sizes larger for beeswax.
beekeeper_sd
01-04-2010, 06:19 PM
You should not have to trim your wick during burning to get it to burn right. I think you just need to wick up. I use a 6 ply flat braided wick for my pillars and have no problems with them.