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LT
11-23-2009, 09:02 AM
Has anyone got plans for a good shaker box for shaking bees and moving them to supply the mini nucs? Last year we used buckets with screen walls but sometimes lost bees beacuse of weight. Any ideas or plans are greatly appreciated.

Velbert
11-23-2009, 02:17 PM
got one on my photobucket dont know measurments at work right now it's made from 2 x 4 ripped down the center made where a 10 frame brood box with metal q-excluder nailed to the bottom will set on top where the bees cant get out.

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g307/vlwbee/100_0695.jpg SHAKER BOX

Michael Palmer
11-23-2009, 05:18 PM
Mine is a series of deep boxes...

Bottom hive body has #8 mesh stapled on bottom. On top of that is a body with 9 frames of foundation and 1 comb of foundation. On top of that is a body with a wood bound excluder nailed on the bottom.

Shake bees into excluder shaker box. Bees move down onto brood/foundation. Leave any queens above excluder. Brood holds bees in box.

You can shake 20-30 pounds of bees into this setup. There is plenty of clustering space below frames in bottom box.

fatscher
11-26-2009, 09:28 PM
On top of that is a body with 9 frames of foundation and 1 comb of foundation. ...Brood holds bees in box.


Sorry, not following ya -- Did you mean to say 9 frames of foundation and 1 frame of brood?

Michael Palmer
11-27-2009, 09:32 AM
Sorry, not following ya -- Did you mean to say 9 frames of foundation and 1 frame of brood?

Yeah, sorry. Too tired to type correctly. 9 frames of foundation and one frame of sealed brood. Brood holds swarm in hive, and provides a supply of nurse bees.

Skinner Apiaries
11-27-2009, 10:53 AM
Sounds like a shaker hive lol. I know the commercials make splits sorta like that. Brushoff alot of brood combs so they're beeless, put them in a box over an excluder on the same box, come back a few hours later in the pm, put em on bottoms, on a truck, move em to a new yard, bam, split, just add queen.

I like that idea, its a good way to keep a bunch of bees from flying around. I was just spraying syrup...

Keith Jarrett
11-27-2009, 05:18 PM
These are some I made, 25-35 pound cages.


http://s148.photobucket.com/albums/s35/CNHoney/?action=view&current=100_1502.jpg

http://s148.photobucket.com/albums/s35/CNHoney/?action=view&current=100_0805.jpg

LT
11-28-2009, 08:37 AM
Keith, What is the wooden box with the dividers used for? Also how is the top configured to dip bees? Thanks

Keith Jarrett
11-28-2009, 08:44 AM
Keith, What is the wooden box with the dividers used for? Also how is the top configured to dip bees? Thanks

LT, wooden box is a "smoke-up" box, when I shake bees take off a lid from a hive you want to shake, put a excluder on with a" smoke-up box" smoke the bees up through to the top, take off five to seven pounds of bees bump them into your holding cages and repeat the process.

LT
11-28-2009, 11:49 AM
Thanks for the explaination. Do you smoke up thru the entrance?

Keith Jarrett
11-28-2009, 03:23 PM
. Do you smoke up thru the entrance?

Yes, also, put a small hand full of menthol in your smoker. Should be able to avg 50-70lb an hour.

Velbert
12-24-2009, 08:25 PM
Hey Keith

Was wondering about how many pounds per hive do you get out at a time I know It may very from hive to hive.

Thanks

Keith Jarrett
12-25-2009, 11:37 AM
5-7 pounds per shake, if there small, I bypass them till the next round, not worth the time if your only going to get a couple pounds.

jean-marc
12-25-2009, 02:02 PM
Keith:

How many shaker boxes do you have. I'd imagine you would want 5-7 of them and with a helper, you do the 50-70 pounds per hour? So you smoke the bees up from one hive for 30 seconds or so then gives them a chance to go up? Then smoke again? How long does the process take?

Thanks.

Jean-Marc

Keith Jarrett
12-25-2009, 02:42 PM
Keith:

How many shaker boxes do you have. I'd imagine you would want 5-7 of them and with a helper, you do the 50-70 pounds per hour? So you smoke the bees up from one hive for 30 seconds or so then gives them a chance to go up? Then smoke again? How long does the process take?

Thanks.

Jean-Marc

JM, I have about 30-40 holding cages & 10 smoke-up boxes.
50-70lb an hour... yes
JM, I use about 7-8 boxes and cycle the smoke, yes, give them a chance to move up, kind of like useing stink pads but reversed.
how long does it take? not very long maybe five minutes to start dumping then your behind the rest of the day. :)

Beeslave
12-25-2009, 03:01 PM
When I get bees out of the hive for packages it's about the same as Keith. I use a 6 5/8 super with 9 frames drawn empty comb(and screen cover that keeps frames and bees in) above the excluder and use bee-go in the smoker(squirted over the smoker fuel periodicaly) to drive them up. The box is then put on package funnel and the bees are knocked out of the box or blown. If you are not careful with the bee-go smoke you can drive to many bees into the shaker box.

jean-marc
12-25-2009, 08:55 PM
Keith:

Wondering if this is a solo effort or do you have a helper or two to get the 70 pounds per hour?

Jean-Marc

HVH
12-25-2009, 09:13 PM
Do you guys have the funnel fabricated or is there a source for them? If fabricated, can someone post the specs/design?

Thanks

Keith Jarrett
12-26-2009, 08:02 AM
Keith:

Wondering if this is a solo effort or do you have a helper or two to get the 70 pounds per hour?

Jean-Marc

Two men crew.

LT
12-26-2009, 08:06 AM
Looking for a funnel myself. Any help is appreciated.

SCFarms
12-26-2009, 12:43 PM
5-7 pounds per shake, if there small, I bypass them till the next round, not worth the time if your only going to get a couple pounds.

Dose this mean you shake the same hives multiple times and if so how many times do you go throw and shake them?

Keith Jarrett
12-30-2009, 09:01 AM
SCF,

two-three times.

BigLongYellowMFerz
01-04-2010, 02:59 PM
For shaking bees 2 stock queen yard get deeps and cut a hole in the long side that you will be able to get a jar of syrup on and the funnel in. Then screen up the sides like u would a 3-4lb package.