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CSP
06-20-2009, 08:33 AM
One of my four hives seems to like having two queens. In late April this hive raised a new queen, but didn't get rid of the old one, who seemed to be laying fine at any rate. At first I thought the hive might swarm, but they didn't. Then, I thought they might eventually kill the old queen, but they haven't.

Initially, the bees seemed to keep the queens apart. They would always be at opposite ends of the brood nest. But after a couple of weeks, I began finding them very close together. In fact, on one inspection a week ago they were on the same frame within inches of one another, both acting as if everything were perfectly normal.

This is a one-deep brood nest hive which is common in my area. I use a queen excluder and there are three supers on the hive at the moment. Both queens seem very healthy and active and act as if they are laying. And, I believe both are laying because the brood nest is now completely full of brood. Every frame, stem to stern laid up with brood. But this has me concerned. I've noticed that this hive has begun to consume more honey than they're bringing in. The hive keeps getting lighter and the honey is slowly disappearing from the supers.

My question is: should I be concerned? Will the bees eventually take care of this issue? Should I be thinking about splitting? I thought about killing one queen, but I wouldn't know which to take out. The nectar flow in my area is just about over by the end of June, so I'm worried about the hive becoming too strong as we move into the lean months of July and August.

Any suggestions or ideas would be appreciated.

Michael Bush
06-20-2009, 06:18 PM
It's actually common and it's not a problem. The bees will keep things in line. Some people do it on purpose:

http://www.bushfarms.com/beestwoqueenhive.htm

habutti
06-20-2009, 07:43 PM
It is not uncommon to see a mother-daughter in a single hive laying, there are many reasons for this but nothing to be alarmed, as stated earlier the bees will take care of this in due season.

Michael Palmer
06-21-2009, 06:04 AM
Some people do it on purpose:

Truly. I know beekeepers in the UK who select for the trait...bees maintaining multiple queens in their colonies. I see it quite often. In fact, I once found 17 multiple queen colonies in the group of 50 that I was requeening.

chillardbee
06-21-2009, 09:22 AM
absolutly not, natural two queeners are awsome.

CSP
06-21-2009, 10:52 AM
Thanks for all the answers.

I'll keep letting the bees take care of things. They seem to be doing well. I just wish they had started with two queens earlier this spring before the nectar flow.

It will be interesting to see what happens with the two of them. Just FYI, these are Italians, but very light-colored, almost blonde, whereas all my other hives are darker colored.