View Full Version : My Tanzanian Top Bar Hive
DaggerD
04-22-2009, 10:11 PM
As a neophyte beekeeper, I enjoy seeing photo's of hives that I am interested in. As there are not a lot of pics nor information on Tanzanian Top Bar Hives (horizontal hives/long box hives/ etc.), I thought I would share mine.
I wanted to be able to transfer my frames from the nucs I bought directly into this hive. So my dimensions had to fit accordingly. I was going to go with a box type front and then have it morph into a kenyan top bar hive. But I listened to Michael Bush and went this route instead. I'm glad I did as it was a heck of a lot easier to make.
Although there are drawbacks to having such a long bar (19"), there are also some benifits. I can interchange frames with langstroth hives, or with an adjustment to my lid, I could add supers or other boxes above.
I went with old wood so that it has that rustic look. I sanded and cleaned up the insides and left the outside looking like it does. I think it looks a lot nicer in this location this way.
The lid has plywood and then the metal. The overhang in front is mostly because the metal sheet was that size and I didn't have to cut anything. But it should keep the weather off of their front deck.
http://i725.photobucket.com/albums/ww259/JDeMoss/bees015.jpg
http://i725.photobucket.com/albums/ww259/JDeMoss/bees010.jpg
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DaggerD
04-22-2009, 10:18 PM
The two bars laying on top show the triangle/wedge shaped top bars that I made. Through the opening you can see the follower board. The different colored slats are covering the openings caused by the langstroth frames from the nuc.
http://i725.photobucket.com/albums/ww259/JDeMoss/bees018.jpg
This image shows how I attached the follower board. I shaved a little off of one of the top bars and attached it.http://i725.photobucket.com/albums/ww259/JDeMoss/bees019.jpg
Here is a shot of the front with the entrance feeder and my super expensive entrance reducer. I think it might be a stake or something that I grabbed when I set the hive up. I just covered the entrance leaving a small opening at one end. I'll just pull to the left to enlarge. It seems to work alright.http://i725.photobucket.com/albums/ww259/JDeMoss/bees011.jpg
Like I said, I'm a total beginner. My dad used to have them when I was young, but I am just figuring this all out. If anyone see's any problems, let me know. Hope it helps anyone else looking around for something similar.
Natalie
04-22-2009, 10:31 PM
DaggerD, very very nice. I do like the rustic look of the hive, good call leaving the original patina.
I just got my first tanzanian hive last week, bees are going in the next couple of weeks or so.
I have 2 kenyan hives as well, I like the concept of the whole topbar hives, although I do have langs too and enjoy them as well.
It will be interesting to see the differences between them all and to make comparisons.
Good luck with it!
ncsteeler
04-22-2009, 11:35 PM
That is a good looking hive, i like the old wood. I used grooved topbars and inserted some cut up foundation about a quarter inch , then hit them with the blow torch to fasten them in a bit. So far the packages I installed are building good. I really like those angle TBs, I might have to try some of those. Did you melt any wax on them?
DaggerD
04-23-2009, 04:27 AM
Thanks Natalie. I have a langstroth hive as well so that I am able to compare. I personally am drawn more to the top bar hive, but we'll see as the year progresses.
ncsteeler, I did melt some waz on the tips of them. I just rubbed a bunch of wax on the tips and then hit it with a hair dryer. Although I suppose the torch would have been faster.
the.hines
04-27-2009, 01:52 PM
That is kind of what I am looking for in my back yard hive. Where did you get those plans or did you just wing it? How did you cut the angle TB? Thanks
nwgabeeman
04-27-2009, 03:37 PM
DaggerD,
How well are the bees moving past the nuc frames to your top bars?
And I too am curious about how you made your wedge top bars.
nwgabeeman
DaggerD, :applause: !
nwgabeeman, I don't know how Dagger does it but here's how I do: pictorial (http://lyonsvillefletcher.blogspot.com/2009/03/top-bar-pictorial.html)
nwgabeeman
04-28-2009, 10:00 PM
Aram,
Thanks for the pictures and detailed instructions. Currently my top bars use a starter strip but I like the wedge bar idea better, it would certainly eliminate a weak point as the bees can attach comb directly to the top bar. I am also thinking about trying wedge bar foundationless frames.
nwgabeeman
DaggerD
04-28-2009, 11:59 PM
Thanks for the great step by step Aram. That is exactly how I made mine as well. I then just rubbed some wax on the tips and melted it in with a hair dryer. As for the box... I had drawn up plans but forgot them when I went out to make it. I just grabbed one of my langstroth boxes and took the measurements off of it (making it three times as long).
BWrangler
05-03-2009, 07:11 PM
Neat photos. I always learn something new. Thanks DaggerD.
Regards
BWrangler
nwgabeeman
05-18-2009, 09:00 AM
Hi All,
I tried Aram's method of making "Wedge" Top Bars. Works like a charm.
Thanks Again,
nwgabeeman.
Michael Bush
05-20-2009, 07:36 PM
It looks great. I would shorten the tin so the wind doesn't catch it. I wouldn't have it stick out more than a couple of inches past the front and none is fine too.