.22 rifles recommendations

[dragonfly]

Who makes a good .22 that will accurately shoot .22 shorts, but doesn't cost my first born child?

[Sundance]

Are you looking for a semi, bolt, pump, or single??
Rifle? Pistol?

[dragonfly]

Oops, I guess I left out a couple of details.:o Probably bolt action rifles. Anschutz is out of my price range.

[kustomizer]

My favorite all time .22 rifle is the ruger 10-22, but I don't hink it likes shorts.

[dbest]

I'd have to go with the ruger 10-22 I have 2: the long rifle and a carbine. for less than $250 you have a very accurate rifle.

[brooksbeefarm]

DF, just curious why do you want to shoot shorts, the long rifle shells are cheaper. My first gun was a Win. single shot rifle,the kind you pulled the plunger back to fire it, and it shot shorts,longs and long rifle shells. Jack

[Hambone]

I bought a Savage at Walmart about 5 years ago. It has been the best little rifle. It is the one gun I do not take care of. I have never cleaned it, loaned it out a few times. It fires perfect every time.

I looked and found a model you might like.

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=2685496 :D

[HVH]

Another for Ruger 10/22. If you want to make less noise you can buy rounds with less powder. My son has the 10/22 and I have a 77/22. His is semi-auto and mine is a single shot.

[Zane]

DF you using the shorts for the sound?
I like my Ruger 10-22(semi) but never tried shorts. Marlin and Henry makes some nice (lever action) that are real accurate. BUT it you can find an old Win model 62(pump) you can shoot the eyes out of a squirrel ! 100 paces so Granpa always said! Oh yeah you said cheap. Good luck prices seem to keep going up lately.
Pistol wise I like the Browning buckmark. Real smooth shooting hand piece

[TwT]

best .22 I ever seen or shot was a semi auto Remington Speed Master, My grandfather left me one in the 70's when he pasted, you can mix up longs and shorts and it never miss a beat, Looking at this topic I was wondering if they still made the Speed Master and it seems they do but good lord at the price $550-$650 (for a .22) man I know its been a while since I bought a good but dang that's pricey http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/rimfire_rifles/model_552_speedmaster.asp they are still sweet small rifles. mine may be about 40-50 years old but it is still one of the most dependable guns I think is made.

[dragonfly]

Wow, everyone, thanks a bunch.
The primary reason for using shorts is to minimize the danger of hunrting anything on a neighboring property. The noise is no problem. DH has a target range where he regularly sights in larger caliber rifles.
The 22 doesn't need to shoot long distances, it just needs to hit small targets at 25-100 ft.

[Barry]

The 22 doesn't need to shoot long distances, it just needs to hit small targets at 25-100 ft.

Moving targets with four legs?

[Sundance]

I agree with Derek (well maybe not the pink model) that
Savage makes a nice little bolt action for the money.

[magnet-man]

A fraternity brother back in college had a Marlin golden microgrove 22 lever action that was very accurate and had excellent sights. It was so accurate that we would shoot Mardi Gras doubloons out of each other hands at around 50 feet. :doh: I was very stupid back then. Somehow everyone managed to keep all their fingers.

[dragonfly]

Moving targets with four legs?

No, sitting targets with feathers that are invading my martin house.;)

[power napper]

Try a long barreled blow gun, silent and quite effective to eliminate the sitting targets with feathers that invade martin houses.
My martin house looked like a pin cushion after one season of blow gun therapy, darts were sticking out everywhere.

[dragonfly]

My martin house looked like a pin cushion after one season of blow gun therapy, darts were sticking out everywhere.

:D On the new martin house I built, I put a couple of perches about 8" above it, and I'm hoping to avoid tearing up the house.

[Sundance]

I recommend cheking out quality air rifles........ I had a
Beeman that was deadly and accurate. And cheap
to shoot.

[dragonfly]

I recommend cheking out quality air rifles........ I had a
Beeman that was deadly and accurate. And cheap
to shoot.

I used to have a RWS Diana, which has a great reputation for accuracy. The problem was that DH hated shooting it because it was like a toy gun. I can shoot handguns well, but because I am right-handed, but have left eye dominance, I have problems aiming anything that is close to my eye. It creates a doubling of my vision, and I'm not a good enough shot for birds.

[Beeslave]

Cricket makes a single shot that shoots .22 shorts only and has a peep site. very accurate( for a .22 short). Comes in black, pink, and red,white, and blue stocks. I've seen the black and pink for $100.00. It's short and sweet and kids/grandkids love them. I've tried a few but am waiting for my daughters 10 th birthday to justify buying one myself. Other wise you can get birdshot shell for .22 LR . Not good for coon(unless close and personal) but small predators/varmits it does fine.

[Sundance]

The problem was that DH hated shooting it because it was like a toy gun.

I know RWS is a nice gun, but haven't had that model in hand.

The beeman was every bit a "real" gun on feel, looks,
and accuracy.

I suggest having DH run out 50 yards and you plant a
pellet on his backside...... Then ask him if he still thinks
it's a toy.;) After you dig out the pellet that is.

[dragonfly]

I suggest having DH run out 50 yards and you plant a
pellet on his backside...... Then ask him if he still thinks
it's a toy.;) After you dig out the pellet that is.

:D
Well, I'm sure you know how some guys are about their guns.;) It would be like telling me I can cook in a Easy-Bake oven.

[HVH]

I used to have a RWS Diana, which has a great reputation for accuracy. The problem was that DH hated shooting it because it was like a toy gun. I can shoot handguns well, but because I am right-handed, but have left eye dominance, I have problems aiming anything that is close to my eye. It creates a doubling of my vision, and I'm not a good enough shot for birds.

I have a RWS and it is one of the heaviest guns I own. My .22 is really light with a synthetic stock but the RWS probably weighs as much as my 7mm-Mag 700BDL. At 1200 - 1300 fps .177 it gets the job done. RWS makes several models.

[JIm in Annville]

I have a Savage-Stevens Model 15B single shot that shoots shorts, longs and Long rifles. It is a absolute tack driver. Anything under 100 yards is dead. Probaly less that 150.00

[dragonfly]

It is a absolute tack driver. Anything under 100 yards is dead. Probaly less that 150.00

That's what I wanted to hear. Is it still made and sold? Where would I be most likely to find one? Do you want to sell yours?;) (only kidding on that last part)

[Sundance]

Have you checked out www.gunbroker.com ? They
will have a good number of .22's listed.

You can also check with bullseye bill, although he
doesn't hang here any more........ the email link may
still get to him.

[Zane]

I thought about getting my kid one of those crickets but was quickly convinced not to by a gun dealer when I asked him about them. They dont have a good safety he said. Didnt want to chance it w/ my kid.
Good luck DF on finding your gun.

[dragonfly]

Have you checked out www.gunbroker.com (http://www.gunbroker.com) ? They
will have a good number of .22's listed.



Thanks. I'll check that out. In fact, I think one of my friends visits that site frequently, and I can ask him to be on the lookout for one.

[Michael Bush]

I have a cheap single shot falling block Ithaca that looks like a lever action (but isn't). It's a tack driver. I don't know if it's still in production. I don't see a model number on it.

[cow pollinater]

I'm with Sundance. The Beeman air-rifle is the way to go. I can plink all day long and hit just about everything I shoot at and half the time you get multiple shots off as they never realize that you are shooting until it's to late. Mine is every bit the tack driver that my larger rifles are but you have to adjust for distance a little more. They come in .22 (that's what mine is) so you can tell your hubby it's a real gun.
The greatest part is that the round moves slower so you can hear an audible "thump" like plinking an overripe watermellon when it hits flesh and that does alot better job of satisfying your hatred of whatever you are attempting to kill.:)

[Sundance]

If I only had the extra $$$.......... Here's one sweet
Beeman 400 Match. This is a real gun. 1500 FPS!

Beeman 400 Match (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=124584408)

[dragonfly]

The greatest part is that the round moves slower so you can hear an audible "thump" like plinking an overripe watermellon when it hits flesh and that does alot better job of satisfying your hatred of whatever you are attempting to kill.:)

Aw CP. I don't hate them, I just don't want them killing the martins, and they will readily do it.
Thanks for the info.:)

[Scrapfe]

Who makes a good .22 that will accurately shoot .22 shorts, but doesn't cost my first born child?

The best all round .22 I can think of for what you want, shoots only shorts is the little Remington auto made on the Browning paten. There use to be many of them at county fair shooting galleries. Tube fed magazine, loaded through the side of the stock, bottom ejection and a little round button on the left of the receiver you push forward to break it into two peaces in a heart beat. If you wear long sleeve shirts you may get a hot case ejected into your shirt sleeve if you hold to close to the bolt. There is a knock off from Brazil but I am not happy with the level of fit and finish so I never looked into buying or even borrowing one. The rifle is very collectable and the one I had would shoot sweet gum & sycamore balls off the tree as fast as I could load the rifle, and it was deadly to hickory nuts to. Not much more sound than an air rifle. Good clean used rifles were running about $200, to $300. Browning and Remington both made these little guns, and they should fit a woman’s shoulder perfectly. The rifles made in Belgium before WWII bring a premium and are IMO worth it. If the gun has a history of shooting gallery use pass on it.

Any rifle that is used to shoot all three sizes of normal .22 ammo will likely have difficulty chambering and or ejecting long rifle brass after a lot of short ammo has been run through it. Winchester model 90s and its various clones is a good rifle but a used one might not eject long rifle cases ever again after you etch the chamber with the hot gasses from a short cartridge. Good luck and may you slay all the starlings in Texas little sure shot.

[dragonfly]

If I only had the extra $$$.......... Here's one sweet
Beeman 400 Match. This is a real gun. 1500 FPS!

Beeman 400 Match (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=124584408)

I haven't gone to the site yet. How much?

[dragonfly]

The best all round .22 I can think of for what you want, shoots only shorts is the little Remington auto made on the Browning paten.

Good clean used rifles were running about $200, to $300. Browning and Remington both made these little guns, and they should fit a woman’s shoulder perfectly. The rifles made in Belgium before WWII bring a premium and are IMO worth it. If the gun has a history of shooting gallery use pass on it.



So in doing a search on the internet, what keywords would I type in? Sounds like a gun I would be interested in.



Any rifle that is used to shoot all three sizes of normal .22 ammo will likely have difficulty chambering and or ejecting long rifle brass after a lot of short ammo has been run through it.

I would prefer one that is only for shorts if I can find it. It seems like that should increase reliability and accuracy, although I have no scientific basis for making that assumption.


Good luck and may you slay all the starlings in Texas little sure shot.

I fear that is a statistical impossibility, but I am working on it.;) So far, trapping is my best method.

[TwT]

if you looking to buy online, there is only one place to go, anything you want http://auctionarms.com/ it has everything new and used! (http://auctionarms.com/)

[dragonfly]

Thankt TwT. I'll check that one out too.:)

[Hobie]

For what it's worth, if intended for varmint control, I know from experience that hitting a groundhog with a short knocks the wind out of him and that's all. (Forgot to reload! :o)

[Sundance]

For starlings consider .22 caliber bird shot. I can shoot
the rascals right in the barn with those. Kills them dead,
and does little to nothing to wood.

http://www.gamaliel.com/cart/product.php?productid=191

[dragonfly]

Wow SD, that's an idea, and the price is right too.:)

[Sundance]

Wow SD, that's an idea, and the price is right too.:)

The kill range is short........ I am guessing 10 to 15 yards?
But in the barn, that's plenty. Steel siding is going on this
summer and that will get rid of those vermin (I hope).

[Galaxy]

My favorite all time .22 rifle is the ruger 10-22, but I don't hink it likes shorts.I have had the ruger 10-22 for many years. It is a very nice rifle.

[Beeslave]

For starlings consider .22 caliber bird shot. I can shoot
the rascals right in the barn with those. Kills them dead,
and does little to nothing to wood.

Thanks for bringing that back up( had it in post #20):). I use them on pigeons in the barn, just not over the hay(lead poisoning). Try them(.22 birdshot) on a board the same thickness as your birdhouse before you start blasting them off it to be sure you won't damage it with overspray.

[Michael Bush]

I have a pellet gun that is supersonic. It sounds like a .22 and puts holes in cans and squirrels like a .22...

[Dubhe]

I have had the ruger 10-22 for many years. It is a very nice rifle.

My favorite also. If I ever need to take out a herd of charging squirrels, that's the one I'd use. My Marlin bolt action shoots closer groups though, and eats it all from long rifle, shorts, to CB caps.


http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc227/Agligani/iwanttokillresizelq0.jpg

[michaelaao]

One option that I did not see here yet is the combo guns with the .22 over shotgun (either .410 or 20 gauge) pricey for a nice one but neat little guns. I think mine is a Savage but I believe Stevens made them too. Remington Speedmaster is a great gun but they do have a memory so if you start with shorts you can have problems switching to the longs. Rugers are well known to be very accurate. Which ever you choose if you find it is not as accurate as you want it, try changing brands of ammo, sometimes this makes a huge difference. Michael

[dragonfly]

If I ever need to take out a herd of charging squirrels, that's the one I'd use.




:D


Just wanted to update you guys (for anyone interested), DH ended up finding a pellet gun he wanted to try, a Gamo CFX. It arrived yesterday, it took about 8 shots this morning to sight it in with the scope, and there's a dead starling beneath one of the martin houses now. First shot, dead starling, 25 yards. Very quiet, but bulky and heavy enough to feel more like a rifle. If it holds its accuracy, it will be a keeper.

[Hambone]

Cool DF! I have a Sheradon pellet gun. Had it for 20 years. A good pellet gun is bulky and has some weight to it (imo).

Living in the city. For me a pellet gun works great (quite). Had fresh Dove tonight. :D

Glad you like it. Tell DH great choice. Oh. I was kidding about the Dove part. For any Warden that might read this.

[dragonfly]

Oh. I was kidding about the Dove part. For any Warden that might read this.

:D Is that a disclaimer of some kind?;)
I've told you guys that if times start getting really tough, we may resort to eating starling stew.;) You must have thought I was kidding.

[Hambone]

:D Is that a disclaimer of some kind

Just trying to keep from going back to jail. :)

[btr568]

well I know you already bought the BB gun,but if someone is looking for a good 22,that shoots shorts,longs,and long rifle....Get a Henry lever action,Wally World sells them,along with everybody else.Put a decent el-cheapo scope on it,works great,no matter what shell you have in it.

[dragonfly]

well I know you already bought the BB gun,but if someone is looking for a good 22,that shoots shorts,longs,and long rifle....Get a Henry lever action,Wally World sells them,along with everybody else.Put a decent el-cheapo scope on it,works great,no matter what shell you have in it.

Thanks for the recommendation. The problem we were having was finding something that didin't cost alot of money. The Anschutz, and higher price range than that, were out of the question for a starling gun, but I would still be interested in a .22 that shoots shorts.

[BoBn]

Longs come in very low power loads also. You could use CB Longs.
http://wapedia.mobi/en/.22_CB
They are subsonic, so there is not "crack" sound. You can usually hear the "thunk" when the projectile hits something.

Your best bet for a firearm is used, from a private sale.