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edppcli
08-09-2008, 09:28 AM
Hi All
Been perusing this site for the last year or so but finally joined because I need some expertise and this is definitely the place to get it.

I'm in the Ottawa, ON, Canada area (climate similar to upstate NY) and started my first hive from a nuc last year (2 hr drive to pickup) was able to pull 1 medium of capped honey in September. Bees overwintered well but late start to spring/summer and has been very wet this this year.
Did a split in late June, the plan was to let the bees raise their own queen. Seemed successful as comb was being drawn out and decent activity. The new hive was placed only about 2' away from the old with the entrances pointing the same way. Checked hive in 3rd week of July and decided to add a new deep with undrawn foundation. Checked last week top super still undrawn, decent activity in lower deep (didn't check closely). Checked this week exactly the same situation took of the top super went through the lower and found 3 frames of capped honey, 3 frames of uncapped nectar 3 frames drawn but empty 1 frame partially drawn....no brood, no eggs, no queen and no queen cells.??????
My established hive is doing well but seems slow at producing honey, top honey medium(separated by excluder) is full of nectar (40-50lbs oof) but hasn't been capped (checked 1 week ago and today) put it down to the rain but....my questions are this my split was obviously unsuccessful could the bee activity be merely remote honey storage from the primary hive?? I think it is too late to (re)queen the remote hive? should I combine the hives (what is the best procedure).
My primary outcome is to have my main hive overwinter successfully again (looks good right now). #2-I want to increase the number of hives but want any new hives to also overwinter (too late in my opinion, next year I guess). #3-I would like to harvest some honey by late August (remote honey storage if fully capped would be great).
All advice is much appreciated.
Thanks
Ed

mike haney
08-09-2008, 10:49 AM
bees never remotely store honey. if you can find a mated queen its not too late for your split, if you feed. i don't recommend you start another split this late with just frames/foundation. you can shake out the bees in your split and rob them and resplit in the spring, but 2 hives are much safer than 1. good luck,mike

Eaglerock
08-09-2008, 12:25 PM
Hi Ed...

Northwestern Pennyslvania here. Name is... Ed
So... two Ed's are better than one. :D

I just started 2 weeks ago, 6 new hives with two frames each.
I read once that it takes 17 to 20 pounds of honey for a Honey Bee to be able to biochemically produce each pound of wax. If this is the case then during this time of year until the later flowers come there is little for them to use. Golden Rod and a few other things will be there for them to work. I know mine have made some comb and I am not sure if it is because I have been feeding them. Which I am winding down by the end of next week. Depending on how they do, and if the rod is there.

Now although I do have queens, they have no brood yet. Or maybe the eggs were there and with my eyes and the light then, I just didn't see...but nevertheless, no capped brood.

I would look for a queen to give them. You might have one and just missed her. But giving them a queen, you can be sure. They will be ok I am sure.

Ed

riverrat
08-09-2008, 02:41 PM
is the cappings chewed on the weak hive. You may have a dead out the activity you see may be robbing from the other hive