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Barry
07-17-2008, 09:34 PM
It won't match a homebrew and a cigar on the back porch,
I'm still searching for both of these. Plenty of them that don't match up, but tell me about the cigar(s) you rank tops.
NeilV
07-17-2008, 10:47 PM
The best cigar I ever had was an actual Cuban that a guy I work with got in Panama. I have had about 3 more Cubans in Mexico that I don't think were real. This one was either the real deal or an extrodinary fake. It was a Cohiba Esplindido.
I ended up getting adicted to nicotine through my cigar smoking (which led to chewing tobacco all the time) and only have one very rarely now so I don't have to quit again. One of my favorite affordable cigars that is legal is an H. Upmann Monarch. They used to sell those in a metal tube, which keeps them properly humified.
If you want a stronger cigar, try a Padron, which are made in Nicarauga or a La Gloira Cubana made in florida.
If you don't smoke much and want a mild cigar, try a Macanudo Hyde Park.
My favorite cheap/domestic cigar is a Toppers Old Fashioned, if they still make them.
My main advice about cigars is to not try too many or you may end up with a tough addiction. But I do like 'em and every now and then should not be a problem.
pcelar
07-17-2008, 11:04 PM
If you want a stronger cigar
I occasionally like light one. Especially when fly fishing. I think I have found the best very light cigar (#1). TEMPLE HALL (http://www.jrcigars.com/index.cfm?page=cigars&brand=TEMPLE%20HALL). And I like best # 700.
Barry Digman
07-18-2008, 07:46 AM
Because I stopped smoking last fall I think I probably should not be posting in this thread, as the temptation might be more than I can resist. However, I would like to point out that circumstances have a lot to do with what makes a good smoke. I think that a smuggled Havana, rolled on the fat brown thighs of a Cuban maiden and smoked on the stern of about a 41' sailboat while watching the sunset off the Keys after a nice meal of freshly caught fish is hard to beat. Unless you brought some homebrew along. Then it would be even better.
Barry
07-18-2008, 08:10 AM
:D You're too funny Barry! As with most things, the circumstance/setting is what's memorable. I don't have a cigar often (my sinuses won't allow it), but in certain settings (yours trumps mine) it is quite enjoyable. My wife loves the smell of a cigar so it's not something I have to do away from her.
cow pollinater
07-18-2008, 02:10 PM
For just an occasional cigar, a Macanudo ascot fits. They're not to big and not to strong.
But if you really want to mellow out, try a big mug of Morebeers all grain bitter with an Onyx Reserve#4 after a big meal with lots of red meat.
cow pollinater
07-18-2008, 03:48 PM
I stopped smoking last fall... rolled on the fat brown thighs of a Cuban maiden...
Just the thought makes me want to quit smoking cigars to!:eek:
knadai
07-18-2008, 08:19 PM
Mild and readily available: Arturo Fuente
BULLSEYE BILL
07-19-2008, 12:41 AM
A lot of really good suggestions here! However I have to say that almost any Macanudo (the black ones) are way too heavy for the occasional smoker. If you want a nice lite smoke the Arturo Fuente is really nice, and the Cohiba's are fine choice too. Try dipping the end in a glass of Hot **** occasionally.
I have pretty much given up the old man's stinky cigars, what I really enjoy and have about one every evening or so is the Havana Honeys del Sol vanilla. That is a great sweet smoke that won't drive people off, not quite a chick magnet but close. It is dipped in honey on the tip that sweetens it on the lip, certainly a better if not different taste than the one aquired by the sweaty glans of a fat Cuban woman's thighs.
Remember to blow out every few puffs, that will ensure a pleasant smoke all the way to the end. A sure way to ruin a good smoke is to light it with a cigarette lighter with lighter fluid or the sulfur off a match. Use a quality propane torch that will not tarnish the taste.
Barry
07-19-2008, 09:23 AM
I'm with you BB. Most cigars are way to heavy and not enjoyable to me. I've had the Tatiana vanilla cigar which is pretty good.
(http://www.tatianacigars.com/Tatiana/Cigars/Vanilla_Cigars/vanilla_cigars.html)
I'll give the Havana Honeys a try.
hsbcapt
07-19-2008, 10:46 AM
Sancho Panza box press does it for me!
Barry Digman
07-19-2008, 11:06 AM
It is dipped in honey on the tip that sweetens it on the lip, certainly a better if not different taste than the one aquired by the sweaty glans of a fat Cuban woman's thighs.
I thought all cigar smokers had heard this lovely old story and understood it to be such. Apparently not.
The Virgin Cigars
South African cigar expert Theo Rudman addresses this hoary old legend in his on-line magazine. “It is a lovely idea,” he writes, “but alas is a legend that has persisted since the mid-forties, when a visiting journalist saw tobacco leaves being sorted and graded by women who placed the respective piles on their laps.” The visitor apparently took some imaginative journalistic license when he later wrote that Havanas were rolled on the thighs of virgins. Certainly, this story hasn’t hurt the mystique-laden marketing of Habanos.
“Yes, they would stretch the leaves on their uncovered skin, but to roll a cigar on one’s leg - you cannot do that,” Borhani says with a snicker. “I challenge anyone - man or woman - to put bunched tobacco on their thigh and roll a successful cigar.”
BULLSEYE BILL
07-19-2008, 03:09 PM
I thought all cigar smokers had heard this lovely old story and understood it to be such. Apparently not.
That's what you get for thinking, wrong again. :rolleyes:
Another favorite of mine is the Backwoods Honey Berry. It is a small roughly made cigarillo (think Jose Wales), that doesn't take an hour to enjoy like a regular cigar.
cow pollinater
07-19-2008, 04:21 PM
I thought all cigar smokers had heard this lovely old story and understood it to be such. Apparently not.
I do remember hearing that from somewhere. I just figured it was the anti-tobbacco nuts trying to convince me smoking was bad anyway they could.
It just about worked!
Oldbee
07-19-2008, 06:36 PM
Hey guys!! I'am trying to QUIT here! lol.
sds888
07-21-2008, 03:33 PM
If you want a very mild light cigar Montero churchill is the one to go with but good luck finding it in a cigar store. It will also last well over an hour.
pcelar
07-21-2008, 08:00 PM
If you want a very mild light cigar Montero churchill is the one to go with but good luck finding it in a cigar store. It will also last well over an hour.
Where do you buy it?
BULLSEYE BILL
07-21-2008, 10:46 PM
Catalog and on line ordering company's like Thompson's Cigar in Fl. is where I order from.
http://www.thompsoncigar.com/default.aspx
MichaelW
07-22-2008, 07:40 AM
mmmm, and just a few clicks away.
Now I just need a credit card account my wife does not read.
pcelar
07-22-2008, 07:47 AM
Catalog and on line ordering company's like Thompson's Cigar in Fl. is where I order from.
http://www.thompsoncigar.com/default.aspx
I do not see Montero churchill.
Barry
07-22-2008, 08:02 AM
I did a Google for Montero Churchill and there is little out there about this cigar. I did find this:
www.cigarworld.de/newsletter/2007-05-03.htm (http://www.cigarworld.de/newsletter/2007-05-03.htm)
You'll need to use Bablefish.
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In the cold course this Cigarre promises to become already particularly pleasant. Including-industrial union-softly equipped with more dezenter sweet ones from the outset, it flows flavours of cocoa, vanilla and caramel. By the special kind of the fermentation the smoke process is particularly interesting, the Cigarren wins after the first half at bodies and becomes more süßlicher and more vollmundiger in the taste. For lovers „of the normal “first pages also still some few crates the Churchill with bright Connecticut first page are available! Importer of the Montero is and/or was the company Wörmann, who has the importer Charles Fairmorn in the year 2006 „swallowed “. This series disappears completely from the market there to Wörmann more on its self-mark „Belmore “to concentrate would like. Secure yourselves still fast some this special Cigarren for pleasant, süsslich aromatic Sommernächte…!
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BULLSEYE BILL
07-22-2008, 09:30 AM
I do not see Montero churchill.
I have not ordered that particular cigar but they have great selections and many that are not available in the shops. You would be surprised how many cigar shops order from distributors like Thompson's, Mike's, etc.
phil c
07-22-2008, 06:50 PM
My personal favorite is a box press CAO Anniveery(sp) Cammeroon Toro when I can find them. I tend to the med strength sticks and really like cammeroon wrappers.
The best cigar regardless of brand is the one that can be smoked with friends.
When my twins were born I went to a smoke shop in town and told the shop owner I needed a couple of boxes to help celebrate the births. He looked kind of disgusted and just reached over and grabbed some white owl "its a girl" off the shelf. When I told him that I was a cigar smoker and wanted somthing worth handing out he brightened up and we went into the humidor, he pored a couple glasses of brandy and we talked cigars. In the end I left with 1 box of the CAOs for myself and a couple of boxes of a George Burns lable to hand out. they were not quite a Churchill but they were good sized and not a bad smoke.
Barry
07-22-2008, 09:47 PM
After I had dinner with my wife this evening, we took a stroll along the Fox River. I stumbled across a cigar shop, but it was closed. Saw in their window they had a website and it appears I will be stopping in this weekend.
http://www.bullandbearcigars.com/Cigar_Brands_We_Carry.html
BULLSEYE BILL
07-22-2008, 11:31 PM
Ah too bad, no Havana Honeys. :( If you like a sweet flavored cigar look at the Cojimar and the Tatiana Flavors. Not nearly as good as a Havana Honey Vanilla Del Sol, but still nice if you stay away from the chocolate or rum. :yuck:
sds888
07-23-2008, 01:01 PM
I do not see Montero churchill.
I have had a very hard time finding this cigar the last couple of years but I never look on the internet because I know if I do find them I am going to have to order a box.
sds888
07-23-2008, 01:14 PM
here is some info on the cigar
Dominican Republic 6" x 50
Introduced in 1995, theMontero cigar line, manufactured by Davidoff of Geneva, is rolled froma blend of long filler Dominican binder and filler tobaccos aConnecticut-seed wrapper from Ecuador.
A llDavidoff cigars maintain well-defined standards of quality andexcellence. The tobaccos that are used in the different blends havebeen cultivated in accordance with the most ancient traditions, in therichest soils and ideal climatic conditions of carefully selectedfields. The choicest leaves from various harvests undergo four yearsof aging, which imparts to Davidoff cigars their rich aroma andconsistently smooth taste. All Davidoff cigars are handmade in theDominican Republic, where for over five centuries this art has beenpassed on from generation to generation.
Binder: Dominican Olor
Filler: Dominican Seca & Ligero
Wrapper: Ecuadorian Piloto Cubano – Maduro
Strength (Mild 1, Full 10): 6
Notes from the Panel:
Immediatelynote a slightly oily rustic wrapper that we found very inviting. It should come as no surprise that the Montero samples weevaluated were all well constructed considering they are manufacturedby Davidoff. We found itto have a light herbal character to it and a creamy finish. It builds as you get into it to a pleasant slightly sweet, richtobacco tastes. Overall,we enjoyed the taste very much. Very well made. Trythis one with Ron Anejo’s Pampero Anivesario Rum.
Sundance
07-24-2008, 11:36 AM
A truly great cigar is the one someone else is smoking,
a long, long way from me.;)
My brother was a cigar fanatic up to 5 years ago. He
quit for health reasons. He seemed to enjoy those
Feuente ones. Man did he stink up the place....
Barry
07-26-2008, 10:46 PM
IMO, a cigar MUST be smoked outside.
sds888
07-27-2008, 05:45 AM
IMO, a cigar MUST be smoked outside.
I agree.
papa bear
07-27-2008, 08:09 AM
reading this thread reminds me how lucky i am. mins away from brushy mtn bee farm, buck shaols and black snake meaderies and JR's discount cigar warehouse. by the way, my vote arturo fuentes
pcelar
07-27-2008, 10:15 AM
reading this thread reminds me how lucky i am. mins away from brushy mtn bee farm, buck shaols and black snake meaderies and JR's discount cigar warehouse. by the way, my vote arturo fuentes
That is where I buy my cigars online. ;)
Barry
09-10-2008, 09:50 AM
Wow, this thread was already 9 pages deep.
I went to the cigar shop and purchased 5 cigars. All I said was I wanted the mildest cigars he had. Here is my critique.
Perdomo Reserve cabinet series la tradicion perfecto:
Most expensive cigar ($8) and least liked. It was the most robust of the five. The outer wrap would keep splitting apart down to an inch below the burn. Thumbs down.
Fuente Gran Reserva and Macanudo:
Not bad. Mild to the degree I like and both were pleasant, although one of them (fuente?) became less desirable during the second half.
Cojimar vanilla:
A nice smoke. I'd have another.
Oliveros vanilla:
My favorite, and will definitely keep them on hand. A very mild and pleasant smoke.
BULLSEYE BILL
09-10-2008, 10:33 AM
Cigars that crack and split are signs that it has dried out. If you do not have a humidor you can put a cigar in a baggie with a half of a slice of bread (not touching) to bring it back. Do not use a wet napkin, too much moisture too fast will make it explode.
You tend to like same type of cigars I do, I did suggest the Cojimar. ;) Now if you can trust me that far you still need to find Havana Honey Vanilla Del Sol. If you can't I will send you one in the mail. PM me your address.
Barry
09-11-2008, 08:23 AM
Cigars that crack and split are signs that it has dried out.
Ah, I wondered what the cause was. I'm very surprised then, because the shop I bought them from had some very serious humidors and the cigar was in a plastic wrap plus they put it in a ziplock bag for you to take home.
you still need to find Havana Honey Vanilla Del Sol. If you can't I will send you one in the mail.I'm still keeping an eye out for them. I'll let you know if I come up empty.