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Ken&Andria
07-06-2008, 07:18 PM
Just got a call from my wife. Apparently our new 9 week old Setter pup got out near the hives. One of the hives piled out and shredded him. Andria says he got hit a least a half-dozen times. There were bees all over him. This pup only weighs 81/2 pounds.

How much danger are we in here? What kind of medical treatment will he need? We're all a bit freaked out right now...

Cacklewack
07-06-2008, 07:20 PM
I'd take the poor dog to a vet just to be safe...

Matt

Michael Palmer
07-06-2008, 07:28 PM
How much danger are we in here? What kind of medical treatment will he need? ...

If anything was going to happen, id probably would have. Might get a fat lip...etc.

I had a dog get stung really bd. The dope working for me got attacked by angry bees...his fault. With full suit, and covered with bees, he opens the door to my truck. Charlotte...Blut Tick...was inside. The bees went after her big time. Away she went. Out onto US Route 7. Chases after a pickup truck going by, with the tailgate down, and leaps in on the fly. When I got her back down the road a half mile...where she leaped out, again on the fly...she was foaming at the mouth. She must have taken many stings that day...and her a dog that got stung rather often. She seemed ok afted a drink of cold water, and a rest in the shade in the next yard.

hummingberd
07-06-2008, 07:42 PM
sorry to hear about your pups misadventure! I know that liquid benadryl works for people, call your vet and ask if that will work. Next time you have anyone get a sting, make a paste of baking soda and water. Rub it on the stings. This poultice works well to pull the venom out. Keep it on till it dries and then rinse off in tub or with hose.

Hope your little guy is alright. Keep us posted.

Ross
07-06-2008, 09:02 PM
Liquid benadryl works on dogs too.

sc-bee
07-06-2008, 09:02 PM
Just watch--- no signs after a few hours you are probably OK!!! I got a lab that won't even go close, learned his lesson. Before him a cocker and a Boykin--- didn't take them long to learn either.

jeff123fish
07-06-2008, 09:06 PM
hummingberd- when I had aa bad reaction earlier this year I had done that the paramedics said it doesn't do anything at all to help.



-jeff

Ken&Andria
07-06-2008, 10:50 PM
It seems the initial reports were a bit exagerated. He had a bunch-o-bees on him, but only took one or two stings. He was wailing like a banshee, but Andria slipped him some benadryl in his kibbles and he seems ok now.

Thanks for all the input-

Ken H.

IndianaHoney
07-07-2008, 12:09 AM
Dogs are far more resilient than humans. I use to live in Lauisiana, had a puppy that got bitten in the face by a water moccasin. His face swole up for three weeks, but he was Ok. Never took him to the vet, I figured that if he was still alive, dogs must have a natural resistance to such things. That stupid dog got bitten mulitple times in his lifetime, never had anything more than local swelling. And he lived a long life.

On the other hand, I had a cat that got bitten by a rattle snake when I lived in Oklahoma, dead within an hour.

Now I have a golden retriever, and she must be smarter than than my previous dog. When I come out the backdoor with my vail on, she hides. When I first put this hive in my backyard she walked up to investigate. She never even got stung, she just sniffed it. Then I opened the lid and they came out. As soon as she saw what it was, she decided that she doesn't want anything to do with them.

Ross
07-07-2008, 07:57 AM
My old setter has learned not to approach me when I have a swarm of bees around my head.

MapMan
07-07-2008, 09:35 AM
Glad your pup is okay. My dogs have all learned the hard way to stay away from the hives. But, they learn after only one episode! Same as it is with the electric fences. One sting/shock is all it takes. Of course, every once in a while they take it to the snout when they are doing their sniffin in the grass, and reach a patch of fresh dutch clover. Sometimes they will then run to the door and a bee or two will still be on them, and they release them indoors...

MM

Ravenseye
07-07-2008, 09:49 AM
My pup got it last week. Strolled over to the hive and watched the bees. Unfortunately, there were a couple in the grass right under her. They flew up and got her on the belly. I took her out to the bee yard yesterday and she watched me from a distance with her tail down. They learn real fast. I have another dog that shoves his snout right into the hive entrance every time we're out there. He's never been stung and he's been doing this for three years. Just lucky I guess.

Gene Weitzel
07-07-2008, 02:52 PM
I have a dog that I have to be sure does not follow me to the bee yard. She does not seem to care when she gets stung and loves to snap the bees out of the air. I have had her nearly knock over a hive going after them. I guess maybe they taste good or something. Then again this dog will snap a blackcat firecracker out of the air too, maybe its just a case of "the lights are on, but no one's home"!

hummingberd
07-08-2008, 01:43 PM
hummingberd- when I had aa bad reaction earlier this year I had done that the paramedics said it doesn't do anything at all to help.



-jeff

Darn. I wish it had worked for you. My husband did it and worked like a charm. He got nailed under the eye. Most of the time, stings to the face usually have a reaction. He had to walk from behind the barn to the house, and then scrape the stinger out, because he couldn't see it without a mirror. Then he put the paste on. The spot didn't even swell.

I also use poultices for cleaning. They pull stains out of counter tops, etc...

Hill's Hivery
07-08-2008, 03:21 PM
Ok, so maybe my dog is just plain 'ol DUMB!

The bees don't seem to bother my beagle at all. In fact, I can't keep her away from the darn things! She eats them! I guess they would be sweet when their full of nectar? Dumb Dog!:rolleyes:

jamiev
07-08-2008, 03:53 PM
My brittany also likes to eat bees and has been stung in the mouth area because of it. I do not let him near the hives. The other day bees were following me back to the house
and as soon as I was near him, he started to catch them in the air. After all he is a bird dog. Maybe I should get him a veil like the dog in the Bush Beans TV ad.

fjblair
07-08-2008, 04:52 PM
My bees don't seem to mind the dogs....but my hives are elevated.

edenhillapiaries
07-08-2008, 08:57 PM
Brittanys must like bees. Mine eats them too. Never been stung though. I do my best to keep them away (have two britts) but if I have a few stragglers in the back of the pickup after a visit to the hives the dogs always go after them.

Johsens
07-08-2008, 09:53 PM
I had a Lab that was stung in the face (I think it was a yellow jacket or hornet that time) when she was a pup. Her head swelled up as big as a soccer ball but in time she was OK. After that she would eat all sorts of stinging insects and never reacted as bad, assuming she got stung some of those times.

timgoodin
07-08-2008, 10:08 PM
Our che-rat (chihuahua - rat terrier mix) which weighs about 15 lbs got stung about 5 or 6 stings last year. He became swolen and hid under the bed all night. The next morning he would not allow you to touch him, would not take water or food or would not go to the bathroom. We called the vet and they advised to give an antihystamine and if not better bring him in. I broke a claritin in half and gave it to him in his favorite dog treat. He did take it and within a couple of hours he asked to go out and began to drink and eat. We had to give him another dose the next day but he finally got better. He routinely gets a sting every few weeks but now typically stays away from the hive area. I would assume a pet's response is similiar to that of people, some not bothered too much others it could be come life threatning. Glad to know you puppy is better.

Tim

Ken&Andria
07-09-2008, 11:52 AM
Glad to know you puppy is better.

Thanks. He's not only better, but hasn't learned any lessons either. He's walking right up to the hives again like its no big deal. Dogs!

For those who might be interested (and to see if I'm smart enough to figure out photobucket) here is a pic of the main protagonist in Sunday's little drama: http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l477/Ken-Andria/Chief_in_the_grass_lowres.jpg

Future pics will be bees, promise!

Ken H.

pcelar
07-09-2008, 12:55 PM
The next morning he would not allow you to touch him, would not take water or food or would not go to the bathroom. We called the vet and they advised to give an antihystamine and if not better bring him in. I broke a claritin in half and gave it to him in his favorite dog treat. He did take it and within a couple of hours he asked to go out and began to drink and eat. We had to give him another dose the next day but he finally got better.
I would find another vet. That dog should have right away received IV meds. Needless suffering.