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Dundrave
06-08-2008, 08:12 PM
Hello folks-
I am picking up a nuc of russian mongrels in 2 days. I failed at starting a package on 4.9 wax foundation. I have 20 frames made up. I also have 5.4 foundation made up.
The nuc is started on 5.4. How do I go about regressing it towards 4.9? Do I need to quick order 5.1 foundation? What steps should I follow?
Any help would be very appreciated.
Dundrave
New Beekeeper in Southern Vermont
beemandan
06-08-2008, 09:18 PM
My advice. Start them on the 5.4. After you've had a few years of experience try the small cell.....if you really feel the need.
denny
06-08-2008, 10:39 PM
Dundrave,...I have been having success with Mann Lake's plactic small cell frames ,..the PF-120 medium, and PF-100 deep.
http://www.beesource.com/forums/showthread.php?p=321037#post321037
I add extra beeswax to them which helps the bees draw them out more readily, and most the the ones drawn out are very consistently around 4.9-5.0. It's good to give them a few frames of wax foundation as well, as they seem to like to make larger worker and/or drone cells with the wax foundation.
I live north of Brattleboro, Vt.,...since I notice you live in southern Vt., and if it's convenient , you're welcome to come by anytime for a visit and I could show you some bees & frames from my small cell endeavor of the past two years. :)
spunky
06-09-2008, 11:03 AM
I had a package of bees ,take right away, to both natural drawn small cell and mann lake frames this year; they were the russian crosses that hardman's sell, through walter t kelley's.
Dundrave
06-09-2008, 01:37 PM
Denny,
I am in Springfield, not so far away by my guess. Where are you located? I would love to bounce questions off you and come see your operations at some point.
Nathan McNaughton
Michael Bush
06-09-2008, 10:11 PM
http://www.bushfarms.com/beesnaturalcell.htm#HowToRegress
denny
06-09-2008, 11:51 PM
Nathan,...
Yes, Springfield is not that far away.
I just sent you an e-mail.
Give a buzz, and feel free to drop by anytime,...just call ahead to be sure I'll be here. :)
beemandan
06-10-2008, 07:25 AM
I had a package of bees ,take right away, to both natural drawn small cell
Where did you get the 'natural' drawn small cell?
Dundrave
06-10-2008, 05:02 PM
Thanks Michael that is very helpful!
Dundrave