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IndianaHoney
05-17-2008, 08:48 PM
I have a rather weird problem, that may not be such a problem. I have made a few splits this year. Each split has been given a caged queen, and I left the cap on the queen cage because I supervise all queen releases.

Anyway, many of my splits have refused to accept the queen even after leaving her caged for a week. Some have accepted the queen. What I noticed is that after 4 days I check the cage to see if the bees are biting the cage or feeding the queen. If they are feeding her, I let her out. However, about half of the splits refuse to accept the queen. So I dig into the hive and find a queen cell everytime. These splits did not have queen cells prior to the split, because I check every frame for queen cells when making the splits. And I give them a caged queen when I make the split, I do not wait a day. Oh ya, each time I find a queen cell, the bees are feeding it, and there is a larve present, so its not empty.

These queens are russian, and the hives that I made the splits from are either Carni, or Buckfast (what is called Buckfast anyway).

So each time that I find queen cells, I just take the queen out, and split another hive. But I can't seem to use up all the queens I have, because they keep making their own!

What would you do if this was happening to you? Destory the queen cell, or remove the caged queen and use her somewhere else?

NeilV
05-17-2008, 09:37 PM
Idianahoney,

If misery loves company, I'm company. I am having a similar situation introducing Russian queens right now. If anybody has answers, see my thread about Adding Queens to Nucs.

Ndvan

timgoodin
05-17-2008, 09:42 PM
I believe there was an article in Bee Culture last year that seemed to indicate that it can be difficult to get some hives to accept Russian Queens. (Example a hive of Italians accepting a Russian Queen). I started a couple of nucs last year and put a very minimal number of nurse bees into the nuc box to attend the queen then added brood as it began to hatch from other hives. Tim

Michael Bush
05-18-2008, 10:14 AM
http://www.bushfarms.com/beesfaqs.htm#pushincage
http://www.bushfarms.com/beesdoolittle.htm#ValuableQueen

IndianaHoney
05-22-2008, 09:36 PM
Thanks MB, I think I'll use the push in cage from now on. My guess is that by having emerging bees, she will be accepted better?

Michael Bush
05-24-2008, 09:12 PM
>My guess is that by having emerging bees, she will be accepted better?

It's a combination of that and that she can lay. A laying queen is always better accepted than a caged one.