cross wiring shallow frames

[olky]

can you extract honey from shallow frames with wired foundatiaon, without cross wiring them? will the shallow's hold up without it? trying to use up my last 2 shallows, then will be changing over to mediums.
thanks

[JohnBeeMan]

It depends on the type extractor that you use. With a radial the cross wiring is not required. With the horizontal 2 or 4 frame extractor, it is just about required to cross wire - or else be very slow in the initial phase of the spinning.

[Jeffzhear]

can you extract honey from shallow frames with wired foundatiaon, without cross wiring them? will the shallow's hold up without it? trying to use up my last 2 shallows, then will be changing over to mediums.
thanks

I used an old Root two frame extractor for years with shallow frames without cross wired foundation. I would recommend crimp-wired foundation though. The comb held up fine, you just have to pay attention while extracting.

I do cross wire all my medium and full depth frames and have switched to a radial extractor.

[Michael Bush]

>can you extract honey from shallow frames with wired foundatiaon, without cross wiring them?

I do it all the time with unwired foundation or foundationless in mediums. For years I've done it on thin unwired surplus in shallows.

http://www.bushfarms.com/beesfoundationless.htm#extract