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Maine_Beekeeper
03-30-2008, 12:19 PM
Hello All:
I apologize for the long post and thank you in advance for your assistance.

I am hoping that I might recruit as many members of Beesource as possible to send e-mail to the South Portland Maine city council in opposition of their proposed Beekeeping ordinance. Will you please take a moment to drop a quick note in support of our fellow beekeepers?

Please cc me on your e-mails so I can keep track of how many are being sent. queenbee@overlandhoney.com

Here's a link to the proposed ordinance and related documents: Please see agenda item #3
http://www.southportland.org/index.asp?Type=B_LIST&SEC={4B69C0D1-42C5-4C2E-9744-BE32D6BFE195 (http://www.southportland.org/index.asp?Type=B_LIST&SEC=%7B4B69C0D1-42C5-4C2E-9744-BE32D6BFE195)}

These are the addresses for the city councilors and city manager
Jsoule@southportland.org; cvzm@maine.rr.com (cvzm@maine.rr.com); kloring@maine.rr.com; MBeecher@maine.rr.com;
JHughes@hbisoftware.com; lrb@maine.rr.com; TEblake@aol.com;
Jgailey@southportland.org


if you'd like to include the code enforcement officer this is her address:
pdoucette@southportland.org (pdoucette@southportland.org)


this is a copy of the letter which I just sent myself, feel free to use any parts you wish in your own e-mails.

Dear Mr. Soule and other South Portland officials,
Thank you very much for your note and for your willingness to consider other perspectives.
I am hoping that I might be able to convince you to reconsider enacting a beekeeping ordinance.
I am currently in the process of obtaining my Master Beekeeper certification through Cornell University. One of the primary purposes of Master Beekeeper programs is to educate and advocate in situations such as this. I have just returned from a regional Beekeeping conference in Albany, New York and in a presentation given by the Pennsylvania State Apiarist it was noted that the third biggest threat to honeybees (after Varroa mites and habitat loss) is restrictive beekeeping ordinances.
The ordinance proposed by the City of South Portland, although well intentioned I am sure, sends a message to current and potential backyard beekeepers that beekeeping is unwelcome in South Portland. I sincerely hope that this is not the intention of the City Council. To my knowledge, at this time there are only three people within the South Portland city limits keeping honey bees.
While I understand that a nuisance complaint was the origin of this ordinance, I ask that the City Council step back for a moment and consider whether an ordinance is really necessary in South Portland. It is my understanding that the neighbor who issued the complaint did not speak to the Beekeeper prior to calling the Code Enforcement officer. If the neighbor had spoken to the beekeeper, or if an experienced Beekeeper had been contacted regarding the issue, I believe the entire incident could have been easily resolved. It is my understanding that the majority of the complaint stemmed around bees foraging for water in the neighbor's yard - this problem could have been very easily resolved by "retraining" the bees to an alternative (more desirable) water source. This is easily accomplished by establishing a second water source (often slightly laced with sugar water to make it more attractive) at the location of the first water source and then move the second source away from the first, causing the bees to reorient to the new location of the second water source. This would have been a simple solution to a situation I believe has been blown out of proportion by people who do not understand honeybee behavior or Beekeeping. Had an experienced beekeeper been consulted, the problem would have been resolved with very little fanfare.
Honeybees are facing a myriad of challenges in today's world. Pesticides, diseases, diminishing habitat, Varroa and Tracheal mites, and now Colony Collapse Disorder all are threatening this valuable pollinating insect. Feral honey bee colonies have been decimated in the last 20 years. The number of beekeepers is also dramatically in decline. There are currently less than half the number of Beekeepers in the United States than there were in 1970. It is critical to our ecosystem and our food supply that pollinating insects including honeybees are allowed to remain and thrive in all areas. Regulating Beekeeping with ordinances such as the one proposed sends a message to potential beekeepers and the public that beekeeping is something to be feared and regulated and that the City of South Portland does not welcome Beekeepers. The proposed licensing fee, even at $25.00 is clearly punitive and discouraging to potential beekeepers. In addition, the threat of a $1,000 fine for non-compliance with such a vague ordinance is intimidating to say the least.
Is it possible that you might table the ordinance for some period of time to see if other complaints are lodged and if not, allow South Portland beekeepers to continue without regulation?
With regard to the original complaint, Mr. Ghayebi has made arrangements of his own volition to reduce his colony number to two at his property in South Portland. In addition, through this process Mr. Ghayebi has met and become acquainted with a number of other Cumberland County beekeepers so his resources in terms of expertise and experience are greatly increased. I feel confident that Mr. Ghayebi will continue to manage his colonies in conformance with the "Best Practices" recommended by the Maine State Beekeepers Association. Mr. Ghayebi's colonies are now and will continue to be monitored by our State Apiarist, Tony Jadczak and Mr. Ghayebi's Maine State Apiary license is now and will remain current.
Again, I ask that you reconsider instituting a Beekeeping ordinance in South Portland. It would be very unfortunate if the City of South Portland creates a law restricting beekeeping as a result of one person's complaint of honey bees foraging for water in his yard. As mentioned at your workshop, Fred Hale kept honey bees in South Portland for many years without regulation. I would hope that you might allow South Portland's current and future beekeepers to do the same.
Thank you for your time, please feel free to contact me at any time if you would like additional information.
Sincerely,
Erin Forbes

Walliebee
03-30-2008, 01:16 PM
That's a great letter Erin.

This issue seems to be happening in lots of cities across the country. It seems that there is either a ban against honeybees all together, or the proposed ordinance is too restrictive on the beekeeper.

At present, Chapel Hill has an all out ban on the keeping of honeybee's within the city limits. Fortunately for me, i live just outside the proper city limits. Ironically, you can have up to 40 chickens within the limits of Chapel Hill. I guess the reasoning is someone wanted to keep chickens, neighbor's conplained and they got an admendment to the livestock ordinance that was in place. (bees, fowl, and hoofed are all considered livestock) I guess no one has complained about honeybee's yet.

I have seen the model ordinance that was used in South Portland. All in all it's not a bad ordinance if one must be in place. Yet it seems South Portland stiffened it up a bit by adding more restrictive articles requiring fees and restricting the sale of any products. That makes no sense to me.

If the efforts to revoke it fail, try to get it amended so beeks can at least sell some of their hive products, and avoid additional fees.

clintonbemrose
03-30-2008, 03:35 PM
Here is the link to the Federal Right to Farm Act
http://www.nj.gov/agriculture/sadc/rtfprogram/rtfact/righttofarmact.pdf
Clint

hummingberd
03-30-2008, 10:13 PM
Erin-

It's disappointing to see that the city council is considering a ban on hives with in the city. Maine's history is rooted in agriculture, and we know how important the honey bee is to the agricultural system. Our food system is so overtaxed and fragile right now, that ordinances like this are as you say, discouraging and detrimental. I'm working on a letter right now, and hopefully others on this board will pipe in too. It's important that people are properly educated on how "the keeping of bees" works, and how important they are to the ecosystem. Hang in there... :)

jjgbee
03-30-2008, 11:51 PM
The Right to farm act has no teeth when a govt. agcy. chooses to use police powers to protect the public. This is the loop hole being used in CAL. to drive all the bees out of the citrus region. This statement has been reviewed by Farm Bureau legal dept. Weep and Cry. Is that a new computer acronym ? WAC In Pasadena CA, a group of beeks went to the city council meeting and explained the importance of bees. The council not only reversed it's position, it endorsed back yard beekeeping.

kopeck
03-31-2008, 08:19 AM
The link to the to the Portland website didn't work.

The letter you wrote sounds very good, I just don't have anything to apply it too.

K

Maine_Beekeeper
03-31-2008, 09:30 PM
Hi Kirstan, Kopek, clinton, Jjb, wallie, et al -
thank you for your help and support on this.
It is hard to get motivated and active when the issue isn't in your own backyard.
Unfortunately, as far as I know there are only 3 beekeepers in South Portland. Clearly this is a neighbor issue, not a bee issue. Yet the honeybees are caught in the middle. I'm mortified. If we let this go, we are just laying down to random fear from ignorant people.

Please do send an e-mail to the council as above.
I am unable to get the direct link to work - but if you go here:
http://www.southportland.org and then go to Agendas-city Council and then 2008 and then 3/24/08 workshop you will find the ordinance there.

thanks everyone!

hummingberd
04-01-2008, 03:28 PM
bump. bump. bump.

sylus p
04-01-2008, 04:21 PM
Here's my advice:

Educate your neighbors and break the law, even if you’re the only one breaking it. Better yet, get about 1000 of your neighbors to break the law with you. Deny them their authority over you.

Attempting to work "through the system" is a waste of time and energy and is the surest way to fail. This ordinance was written by control freaks who refuse to face the fact that we're all worm food in the end. It would be laughable if they weren't so willing to use the threat of force to implement their ignorant policies. So be it.

And what the heck is a "Longworth" type hive anyways?

Educate the vast majority of your neighbors and break the law as a group.

No worries. I won't be writing to them.

HVH
04-01-2008, 04:39 PM
Another thread has some info that may be of use

http://www.beesource.com/forums/showthread.php?p=303373#post303373

Maine_Beekeeper
04-01-2008, 09:02 PM
HVH:
Thanks for the link, a great thread for sure.

Jim F:
I enjoy your article and have included it with my packet for the council.
Very nice.

So far, I believe we have about 10 beekeeper e-mails to the council and 3 or 4 letters from South Portland residents.

A few (hundred) more from Beesource beekeepers would be sincerely appreciated.

Thanks!
-Erin

Bee_Rights_Activist
04-01-2008, 10:34 PM
These are the sections of the proposed ordinance that I would target:

1) The registration fee amount.

2) The prohibition on selling products of the hive.

3) Giving inspection rights to "The City Health Officer" and "the Code Enforcement Officer." :eek:

4) That part in the "Purpose" section that some people might construe as meaning that bees can spread disease to humans.

taipantoo
04-02-2008, 06:46 AM
Erin,

You need to run for city council.

I also read somewhere that hornets and wasps were much more prevalent in areas where there were no bees.

I believe there are laws on the books dating back, based in common law, that forbids governments (federal, state, or local) from separating a person from their income without due process.
If I recall correctly, income was defined as the value of 1/2 ounce of gold which is about $500.00 at this time.

I won't be writing any letters on your behalf because I am not in your jurisdiction and I believe it would only exasperate the situation.

I wish you the best of luck from another commonwealth resident.

3mfarm
04-02-2008, 12:18 PM
if portland taxes you on your hives, you can bring them up here! we own 100 acres and are surrounded by dairy farms... jon

Shapleigh's Bees
04-02-2008, 01:24 PM
Erin,

You need to run for city council.

I also read somewhere that hornets and wasps were much more prevalent in areas where there were no bees....

I won't be writing any letters on your behalf because I am not in your jurisdiction and I believe it would only exasperate the situation.

I agree that Erin would be a fine representitive on her city council, but Portland and South Portland are two different cities.

hummingberd
04-02-2008, 03:35 PM
These are the sections of the proposed ordinance that I would target:

1) The registration fee amount.

2) The prohibition on selling products of the hive.

3) Giving inspection rights to "The City Health Officer" and "the Code Enforcement Officer." :eek:

4) That part in the "Purpose" section that some people might construe as meaning that bees can spread disease to humans.

what about the 1,000 dollar fine for being in violation of this crappy ordinance? Do you have any idea how many people get attacked by hornets and wasps and say "I got attacked by bees?" Especially with all the paranoia about africanized honey bees. The public is generally very ignorant. That's why Erin is asking people to send their "two cents" in to the council in the form of a letter or email. You don't have to live in this jurisdiction to pitch in to this effort. You are all "beekeepers in common" and having a pile of emails and letters from all over the country would really have an impact on the way these people think! Don't be afraid to let these people know just how important bees are to our agriculture and our food supply. Give them facts about honeybee behavior and benefits. Discuss CCD and the declining population of honeybees. Ask them to encourage beekeeping in their area as a benefit to the ecosystem and to their city as in general. Thank you...:)

Bee_Rights_Activist
04-02-2008, 04:02 PM
what about the 1,000 dollar fine for being in violation of this crappy ordinance?

Oh yeah, that too! ;) I only posted to "bump" the thread and to draw attention to the specifics of this ordinance in case others hadn't actually seen it. My email has already been sent to the appropriate officials.


Do you have any idea how many people get attacked by hornets and wasps and say "I got attacked by bees?"...The public is generally very ignorant.

On so many different subjects. I'm amazed how many people are able to keep breathing despite their complete lack of knowledge, and even interest in, so many of the things that make life worthwhile. Eugenics is the ultimate answer, I'm tellin ya! I happen to be a card-carrying member of "Misanthropes United!" :D


You don't have to live in this jurisdiction to pitch in to this effort...

But it does help if a person has some writing ability and generally effective communication skills. That would probably eliminate about 75% of the U.S. population. hehe

Maine_Beekeeper
04-02-2008, 06:51 PM
Bee Rights -
Thanks for the wonderful e-mail.
Great job!

I'd run for city council, but I'm too busy editing our state beekeepers association newsletter. Someone needs to coordinate beekeeper communication in Maine...

Thanks all for your help, please keep the e-mails coming!
-Erin

hummingberd
04-03-2008, 05:53 PM
still bumping. Hope people are writing up the emails.

Maine_Beekeeper
04-04-2008, 05:45 AM
Hello Fellow Beekeepers -
Thanks to all of you who have written to the South Portland Council.
(and thank you in advance for those of you who are still planning to write.)

In addition to beekeepers, feedback from South Portland citizens (and anyone else with an interest) would be very helpful.
If you know anyone who lives in South Portland or who you think might be willing to write in, here is what I sent to my non-beekeeping friends in SoPo.
Please feel free to modify as you wish.
Thanks again all, -Erin

Hello friends of mine and South Portland residents;

First I want to thank you for your support and help with this. It really IS very important that honeybees and beekeeping are encouraged in urban areas as well as rural - Honeybees and other pollinators are what makes our berries and fruits and vegetables grow. Not just for us but also as bird and animal forage. It is bad enough our bees are fighting mites, diseases, and pesticides, but now to add ordinances restricting beekeeping in a city like South Portland is just crazy. As most of you know from being at my yard, the bees do not bother people when they are out foraging - they really do not pose a threat to neighbors.

Please write a note to your city council emphasizing the following points:

1 - that you are a South Portland resident and that you oppose the adoption of a beekeeping ordinance
2 - that you like and value honey bees even though you are not a beekeeper
3 - that if you saw honeybees in your yard you would be happy because honey bees are good for the environment and for our food supply
4 - that you would like the city of South Portland to not interfere in any way with honeybees or beekeepers

Please also forward this e-mail to your friends and neighbors in South Portland and ask them to also oppose this ordinance.

Also, if you don't mind, please cc (or bcc me) on your e-mail so I know how many are going out.

Thank you very much from me and from the bees. Please feel free to call me if you would like more information
-Erin

The e-mails to send to are as follows:

Here's a link to the proposed ordinance and related documents: Please see agenda item #3
http://www.southportland.org/index.asp?Type=B_LIST&SEC={4B69C0D1-42C5-4C2E-9744-BE32D6BFE195 (http://www.southportland.org/index.asp?Type=B_LIST&SEC=%7b4B69C0D1-42C5-4C2E-9744-BE32D6BFE195)}
These are the addresses for the city councilors and city manager
Jsoule@southportland.org; cvzm@maine.rr.com (cvzm@maine.rr.com); kloring@maine.rr.com; MBeecher@maine.rr.com;JHughes@hbisoftware.com; lrb@maine.rr.com; TEblake@aol.com; Jgailey@southportland.org

if you'd like to include the code enforcement officer this is her address:

pdoucette@southportland.org

Thanks again everyone!

George Fergusson
04-04-2008, 05:45 AM
Sorry for not jumping in sooner, I've been spread a little thin lately.

The problem should be approached from the point of view that an ordinance is a good idea (not really, but it's inevitable because that's what City Councils do) but that this ordinance as proposed is unnecessarily restrictive in almost everything it proposes. It just needs to be tailored. I wonder what they used as a model?

Erin, are the few beekeepers in South Portland involved in this mess? I assume so. Has Tony Jadczak been consulted? And who was that fellow who talked at last year's MSBA meeting about problems with a town ordinance? Was that Cumberland? Westbrook? I don't remember.. He would be a great resource.

Gotta run.

Maine_Beekeeper
04-04-2008, 06:14 AM
Hi Gerorge -
At this point we're hoping that they will just let it go. I've had indications from two councilors that they're leaning towards voting against the ordinance since it is stemming from only one complaint. I think if we keep barraging them with urging to let it go (particularly from South Portland taxpayers) they'll just table it and let it fade away.

in answer to your questions:
To my knowledge there are only 3 beekeepers in South Portland and at this point only Omid is coming forward (I'd be hiding my hives under a compost bin myself).
Tony Jadczak is very involved and will be there Monday.
Marc LeClair (Westbrook) has also provided his input and the Westbrook ordinance.
Thanks George - I know you're crazy busy.
Please do write to the council when you get a second.
See you April 12 and the state meeting?
-E.

George Fergusson
04-04-2008, 06:40 AM
Hi Gerorge -
At this point we're hoping that they will just let it go.

That would be most desirable. Tony's input will be very useful. He's a great guy.


Thanks George - I know you're crazy busy.
Please do write to the council when you get a second.
See you April 12 and the state meeting?
-E.

I'm planning to attend at this time. I have yet to renew my membership and haven't pre-registered. My wife and I talked it over and decided she would not attend because frankly, we can't afford it and I'll be renewing with a single membership, not a family one. I was laid off (again) earlier this week. I've picked up a little contract work but that's not going to last. Money is a scarce commodity in this household just now.

On the bright side, we had a nice day yesterday and I took the opportunity to check my hives at 3 yards. I lost only 5 hives out of 18 over the winter. Considering how little help they got from me last fall, I'm thrilled! I have bees this spring :)

Maine_Beekeeper
04-04-2008, 06:46 AM
>>I was laid off (again) earlier this week.
I'm very sorry to hear that - it seems like that's going around a lot this winter. Glad to hear you're coming to the meeting, I know they're planning on a few "walk-ins"

>>On the bright side, we had a nice day yesterday and I took the opportunity to check my hives at 3 yards. I lost only 5 hives out of 18 over the winter. Considering how little help they got from me last fall, I'm thrilled! I have bees this spring :)

That's GREAT! I guess the bright side of being laid off is you'll have the time to start your bees off on the right foot! I weaseled out of work yesterday afternoon and saw mine flying as well - I increased the space on a couple of nucs that I'd overwintered in single boxes and fed pollen sub to a few others - I don't know how I'm going to find the time to get everyone moved and settled and everything with me working full time.

Thanks again!
-E.