Almost Garden Time...Wahoo!!!

[peggjam]

Well, it's almost time to start planning for the garden. So, what companies does everyone use? I usually order from Gurney's(I did this year too), but thought I would see where everyone else orders as well. My mother used to order from Territorial Seed Company, and I am going to place a small order there as well. Anyway heres a link to Territorial:

http://www.territorialseed.com/aboutus

Enjoy.:)

[hummingberd]

I order from Seeds of Change and Johnny's Select Seeds here in Maine. Seeds of Change is a huge organic seed company. They have great products, many of them heirloom. You can also get cover crops, apple trees, strawberries, herbs, flowers, assorted gardening tools, etc...

I can't wait to start planting. We're doing a CSA at our farm this year :D It's gonna be so much fun! Next Thursday is the Vernal Equinox. Yippee

[drobbins]

you folks are in the northern hinterlands:rolleyes:
I just put a hundred sweet onions in the ground and the sugar snaps from seed are an inch tall:)
matters and sweet peppers are going to town under a grow light (actually they're outside this afternoon)
plums have finished blooming and the peaches are in bloom
supposed to get chilly tonight but not freeze
if this holds up it's going to be a wonderful spring:)
last year we had a terrible late cold snap that killed a lot of stuff, hopefully no repeat

Dave

[bigeddie]

Waiting for seeds from Jungs. Will start some plants indoors, 2 feet of snow on the ground here but starting to warm up,only 2 below this AM

[iddee]

I don't put in anything but gourds and homebrew.
Gourds will die if you tend'em, and homebrew will work itself. :rolleyes: :p

[Irene S]

I ordered from Bakers (http://rareseeds.com/) *you HAVE to see the catalog, it's like VEGGIE PORN :eek: the photos are WOW! :cool: and John Scheepers (http://www.kitchengardenseeds.com/index.html), because they're local :o

I started my 'maters and onions about two weeks ago (in the greenhouse) and I'm putting the peas in on Monday (st patricks day = peas in my zone). I'm doing eight types of tomatos this year, alot of paste and some white tomatos1

I have six types of garlic that overwintered, they should be done around June/July.

Hopefully it'll be a good year!

[drobbins]

hehe!

weatherman just changed the overnight forecast low from 33F to 47F
let the games begin:)

Dave

[cow pollinater]

We've had a warm stretch in the 70's for two weeks. My wife runs a fruit stand so gardening is more than just a hobby for us. I put out two pounds of corn seed as well as started watermelon, squash, cucumber, and cantaloupe seedlings. They were doing great...until last nights late frost.
I buy almost all of my seeds from Johnny's. It's worth paying them to ship the seed accross the U.S. when you consider that they keep you informed, send high viability seed, offer detailed growing information, etc...I have also bought from Territorial Seed and am not un-satisfied, but Johnny's always delivers.

[peggjam]

I am looking for seeds that arn't hybreds, so I can start seed saving:). My wife loves Howden's pumpkins, and Gurneys didn't offer them this year, but Territorial did, so I ordered some of those, and some sweet corn, an some more squash, an some more greenbeans, an some more.......well by the time I got done I spent over 100 bucks:D. Unlike iddee, the kids can't eat gourds, and their're alittle young for homebrew yet, so......:D.

[berkshire bee]

Got a catalog called totally tomatoes and one from the Vermont Bean Seed company. Both look interesting and I will probably try something from each. After all the rain, I can see the ground now but it's still frozen solid. I'll be starting some seeds this week indoors.

[Galaxy]

Over the years, I have ordered seeds from all the seed houses mentioned in the above posts. My current approach is to make a list of all the seeds that I need and then first try to buy them from a local business (not a chain, I believe in supporting local businesses). Then, I order what’s left from either Stoke’s (they have a wide choice of varieties)
http://www.stokeseeds.com/cgi-bin/StokesSeeds.storefront

Pinetree Garden Seeds (they have a good choice of varieties and are inexpensive)
http://www.superseeds.com/default.php

or Thompson and Morgan (they have many English varieties, but are expensive)
http://www.tmseeds.com/?er=googleus;term=thompson+and+morgan&gclid=CMDR9ODvkpICFShMGgod6xRE_Q

The largest seed catalog, that I am aware of, is the UK firm Chiltern Seeds. They have seeds of over 4,500 species and varieties, many rare and unusual.
http://www.edirectory.co.uk/chilternseeds/

[dragonfly]

I have ordered from Pine Tree, Territorial, and I order supplies from Peaceful Valley Organic supply out on the west coast. They have all been great to deal with, especially Peaceful Valley. I finally got tomato seeds planted last week (I'm only running a month behind ;) ). Hoping they grow fast enough to put out in about a month. We have a nice organic nursery locally that I buy as many seeds from as I can.

[shawnwri]

try seedsaver.org some excellent older varieties that aren't available other places

[Joel]

We order from a variety of places including Gurney which Jim mentions. My wife got the itch early and has plants now that will likely be in bloom by the time they are in the raised beds. It makes for a nice distraction the Sun Room when I'm sitting there watching the snow fall and squash, melons and tomato plants are well on the way. Gives me hope eventually this winter will actually end.

We used to say March comes in like a lion, goes out like a lamb!

[peggjam]

I got one of those "earthway seeders" on ebay yesterday. It takes a bunch of different plates that plant different kinds of seeds. It comes with the sweetcorn plate, which is what I wanted it for:). Anyone else use one of these?

[dcross]

I got one of those "earthway seeders" on ebay yesterday. It takes a bunch of different plates that plant different kinds of seeds. It comes with the sweetcorn plate, which is what I wanted it for:). Anyone else use one of these?

Picked one up a year ago, you'll want this chart handy:
http://www.lsuagcenter.com/en/crops_livestock/crops/vegetables/Recommendations+for+Optimal+Use+of+a+Garden+Seeder .htm

It worked really well, except for sweet corn, those seeds are just the right shape and size to jam behind the plate:)

Also, it won't work in anything except nice soft garden soil. No "trash" on top either!

If you feel like you're hunching over when pushing it, flip the handle around so it's higher, and lean it to the right as it empties to get the last of the seeds.

[peggjam]

Picked one up a year ago, you'll want this chart handy:
http://www.lsuagcenter.com/en/crops_livestock/crops/vegetables/Recommendations+for+Optimal+Use+of+a+Garden+Seeder .htm

It worked really well, except for sweet corn, those seeds are just the right shape and size to jam behind the plate:)

Also, it won't work in anything except nice soft garden soil. No "trash" on top either!

If you feel like you're hunching over when pushing it, flip the handle around so it's higher, and lean it to the right as it empties to get the last of the seeds.
dcross thanks for the link, added it into my favs. So all in all, do you like yours? Sounds like it had more plates when it was new, oh well, I can pick up the ones I need on ebay, and I won't have the one's I don't need laying around. My soil is mostly rocks, but I do have a spot I used to feed the cows round bales in that should be sweet, as I added about 2 feet of new "soil" by feeding them there.:)

[cow pollinater]

I use the Earthway seeder to. If your soil is less than perfect, you can use the bean plate for sweet corn and pick the whole thing up and move it every time you hit a snag. It's a little uneven, but it puts out about the same amount of seed as the sweetcorn plate in good soil.
I bought mine from Lehmans and have been so happy with it and them that I always look there first when I need new supplies.

[Tommy]

Parks Seed Co. and Burpee Seed Co.

[peggjam]

"I bought mine from Lehmans and have been so happy with it and them that I always look there first when I need new supplies."

Hope I can say the same after using mine:).

[cow pollinater]

"I bought mine from Lehmans and have been so happy with it and them that I always look there first when I need new supplies."

Hope I can say the same after using mine:).

Not that mine does tricks and sleeps at the foot of the bed every night, just that I have bought two other seeders from trusted sources that were JUNK and the earthway has held up for a few years and is still going strong.

[peggjam]

Not that mine does tricks and sleeps at the foot of the bed every night, just that I have bought two other seeders from trusted sources that were JUNK and the earthway has held up for a few years and is still going strong.
Now i'm disappointed...I thought I could teach it to fetch:D. No, anything that works would be better than hand seeding sweetcorn:).

[dcross]

So all in all, do you like yours? Sounds like it had more plates when it was new, oh well, I can pick up the ones I need on ebay, and I won't have the one's I don't need laying around.

Overall, I think it's worth the money, unlike most gardening equipment:) If anybody is looking for a new one, I think Amazon had the best price due to free shipping.

For spare plates, I'm not sure even Ebay can beat this:

http://www.earthway-outlet.com/seedplates.htm

In spring, I daydream of replacing the plastic front wheel with a straight disk and some weights to slice through harder ground and such...

[Galaxy]

I got one of those "earthway seeders" on ebay yesterday. It takes a bunch of different plates that plant different kinds of seeds. It comes with the sweetcorn plate, which is what I wanted it for:). Anyone else use one of these?
I bought one of these several years ago. But, I have so many rocks in my soil and a lot of undecayed organic matter that it did not work very well. But, if you have fairly clean soil, I am sure it works well.

Since then, I have taken a different approach. I never till or plow my garden soil. Each fall, I have delivered, by the town, free-of-charge 4 to 5 big truck loads of leaves. I spread these to a depth of about a foot across the garden.

In the spring they have not decayed much. So, I rake them back just enough to sow seeds or do transplants. When the plants are tall enough, I rake the leaves back around the plants.

I rarely have to weed or water. The soil structure is not destroyed by tilling. There are plenty earthworms and other soil creatures. In my opinion, this is the only way to go.

[drobbins]

Galaxy

around here we have a similar deal
except the county takes the leaves and composts them then sells them for $20 truckload
pretty cheap considering they load it
I get several loads each year
great stuff

Dave

[MapMan]

I bought one of these several years ago. But, I have so many rocks in my soil and a lot of undecayed organic matter that it did not work very well. But, if you have fairly clean soil, I am sure it works well.

Since then, I have taken a different approach. I never till or plow my garden soil. Each fall, I have delivered, by the town, free-of-charge 4 to 5 big truck loads of leaves. I spread these to a depth of about a foot across the garden.

In the spring they have not decayed much. So, I rake them back just enough to sow seeds or do transplants. When the plants are tall enough, I rake the leaves back around the plants.

I rarely have to weed or water. The soil structure is not destroyed by tilling. There are plenty earthworms and other soil creatures. In my opinion, this is the only way to go.

I agree - unless you have a very nice seedbed, the Earthway seeder tends to jump all over the place, or stop in its tracks upon hitting a dirt clod. It does properly space and drop the seeds to the right level, but make certain that your seed bed is virtually perfect.

It's snowing out there again. Five inches of clean white snow so far, over the remnants of snow from the winter... Hard to think of gardening now, even though it is the second day of Spring!

MM

[MapMan]

No, anything that works would be better than hand seeding sweetcorn:).

Yep - sure helps prevent an aching back.:)

The seeder corn plate tends to sow too thickly, so make sure you tape over at least every other hole in the plate. I didn't do that or thin corn plants my first year, and ended up with great silage, no ears. :(

MM

[peggjam]

Yep - sure helps prevent an aching back.:)

The seeder corn plate tends to sow too thickly, so make sure you tape over at least every other hole in the plate. I didn't do that or thin corn plants my first year, and ended up with great silage, no ears. :(

MM
Yup, that's the problem with hand sowing as well, great silage, or decorations for Halloween, but very little good eating:(.

[cow pollinater]

I agree - unless you have a very nice seedbed, the Earthway seeder tends to jump all over the place, or stop in its tracks upon hitting a dirt clod. It does properly space and drop the seeds to the right level, but make certain that your seed bed is virtually perfect.

It's snowing out there again. Five inches of clean white snow so far, over the remnants of snow from the winter... Hard to think of gardening now, even though it is the second day of Spring!

MM

If you get bored, you can go out in the snow and practice. You can pretend that snow is a beatiful seed bed with no clods and your seeder will just glide on through.:D
My first set of corn is already in the ground and should sprout any day now.

[peggjam]

"If you get bored, you can go out in the snow and practice."

Our snow turned to ice, which has since turned to mud:(. But on a brighter note, I saw a Robin yesterday:).

[Barry Digman]

I stopped by General Supply, the local feed store, to see what they had in the way of early plants. Onion sets were all that were available. I bought several bunches and got them in this afternoon. I've also planted lettuce, spinach, and Swiss chard. It may get whacked but that's ok.

I had to laugh when I took a moment and reflected on where I was and what it would look like to someone from another place. It's a really, really old place by our standards. Not "colonial" old like the stuff in New England, but a true general store that's been there for nearly a century. The wall behind the cash register is shelves with umpteen old cans and jars and tins full of seeds of every imaginable kind. A middle aged Navajo fellow was very carefully weighing small paper bags of onion bulbs, taping them shut, and labelling them before he stacked them against the back counter.

Other parts of the store are stacked with seed and fertilizer, crockery, lanterns and fuel, Lodge cast iron, sacks of flour, etc. There are chicks and ducklings peeping in their little heated cages. Bags of animal feed, bales of straw and alfalfa are stacked outside the door. It's really a sight.

[drobbins]

>>It's really a sight.

it's a beautiful sight ain't it:)
it's fast turning into suburbia around here but we still have an old feed store like that
hope they can hold on

Dave

[Galaxy]

I agree, it is a beautiful sight. When I travel, I seek out those kinds of places. If you are in France, don't miss the Gamm Vert stores. They are a chain and not old, but they contain some very interesting merchandise.

If you are in England don't miss the large retail nurseries or Kew Gardens in London. The English are the original master gardens of the world.

[peggjam]

We don't have any stores like that left here. Most of the feed stores went the way of the dairy farmers(extinct):(.

[Galaxy]

Hey peggjam, are you really a Wahoo fan or a Wahoo?

See
http://www.qsl.net/wa4yha/wahoo1.html

One could probably apply these "gems of wisdom" to any two schools by just switching the names.

And, I suppose a need a legal (and PC) loophole: I do not endorse or condemn any of these gems. :)

I apologize for stepping on your thread peggjam.

[peggjam]

No Galaxy, I am just sooooooo tired of winter, and was expressing a feeling:). My greenhouse frame arraived yesterday, so I will be spending the day in "assembly" mode:).




Hey peggjam, are you really a Wahoo fan or a Wahoo?

See
http://www.qsl.net/wa4yha/wahoo1.html

One could probably apply these "gems of wisdom" to any two schools by just switching the names.

And, I suppose a need a legal (and PC) loophole: I do not endorse or condemn any of these gems. :)

I apologize for stepping on your thread peggjam.

[Galaxy]

Congratulations peggjam, I envy you. I have dreamed of a greenhouse most of my adult life. I need to get off the dime and make the dream reality. In the meantime, I will make do with three hotbeds.

You do know that a greenhouse can require constant attention and hard work? But since both of us are former dairy farmers, I think we understand constant attention and hard work.

[dcross]

Only an inch or so of new snow here, and I got a ship notification from Dixondale Farms yesterday:)

Galaxy, we're trying something very similar to your method on a limited scale. Last year I learned what "dog vomit fungus" was:)

[John F]

Well, it's almost time to start planning for the garden. So, what companies does everyone use? I usually order from Gurney's(I did this year too), but thought I would see where everyone else orders as well. My mother used to order from Territorial Seed Company, and I am going to place a small order there as well. Anyway heres a link to Territorial:

http://www.territorialseed.com/aboutus

Enjoy.:)

Been too busy during the week to really pay attention to all of the discussions going on in these here parts.

So, all of you folks keep bees and garden too?

You're all nuts!

Anyway, Gurney's seems to get smaller every year. I stop by the Rocky Mountain Seed Company. They know their stuff for this area.

For example, I noticed that there is a kind of bushy plant around the Butterfly Pavilion (a business, like a zoo for bugs) that the bees love. I asked the guy at the counter:
<me> "Hi, I keep bees and notice this bush around the Butterfly Pavil.."
<him> "Russian sage."
<me> "Uh.. It has blue purple flowers and.."
<him> "is it woody or soft? That is, does it look like a bunch of stick now or did it mat down?"
<me> "woody."
<him> "russian sage."
<me> "will it work if I take a cutting?"
<him> "not really maybe green wood, but it's not worth the effort. Cheap and everywhere. Doesn't like it wet either, a great plant for our area."

They just moved from their ancient store (like Barry decribes) and took their giant card catalog style seed cabinet. It's cool.

For me this year I'm going to try and go more vertical with A frame trellises. Hoping to find a melon that will do well this way.

And today is clean up the garden day too!

(Peaches in blossom!? Here they just started budding and I hope they don't blossom to soon!)

Peas, onions, spinach, chard go in today.

[peggjam]

"So, all of you folks keep bees and garden too?

You're all nuts!"

Naw, we just like to eat food that tastes better than what you can get in the store:).

Well, I got the greenhouse frame up, and the end frames done. Tommorrow it's onto the covering:).

[drobbins]

greenhouse, interesting topic
I know nothing about them
what are you going to use it for?
it will obviously warm up in the day but will still get cold at night
are you going to provide heat?
just curious
if it makes sense in NY it's got to be more doable here due to warmer weather
I messed with starting vegetables under a grow light in the basement this year with less than spectacular results

Dave

[Aisha]

I am looking for seeds that arn't hybreds,

I have used J.L. Hudson, Seedsman (http://www.jlhudsonseeds.net/) for over a decade. They have lots of rare and heirloom seeds. The print catalog is easier to navigate than the website!

[peggjam]

greenhouse, interesting topic
I know nothing about them
what are you going to use it for?
it will obviously warm up in the day but will still get cold at night
are you going to provide heat?
just curious
if it makes sense in NY it's got to be more doable here due to warmer weather
I messed with starting vegetables under a grow light in the basement this year with less than spectacular results

Dave
Usually I will put a kerosene heater in if I think it will get too cold. This year I may try barrels of water that would heat up during the day, and then let off the heat at night, just a thought at this point. I was gonna take pics and post, but my darling kids got ahold of the digital camra, and lets just say it no longer works correctly:(. Anyway, I bought a cold frame from here:

http://www.farmtek.com/farm/supplies/home

And then also bought a piece of pull and cut film to fit it. Costs about $475 for a 12' X 16' greenhouse, with four year film on it. Not too bad:), an beats the wreck we were using:D(this one will actually have doors!).

[Irene S]

greenhouse, interesting topic
I know nothing about them
what are you going to use it for?
it will obviously warm up in the day but will still get cold at night
Dave

I have a Juiliana that I got for my first wedding anniversary :)

I use it for seed starting (I have some old fish tanks with busted glass that i use, and a heating mat.). Lots of sunlight during the day, and the mat keeps it warm enough at night. I used to start seeds inside, but my four cats had other ideas (and I'd have an indoor light on for the seeds)

it's also nice to have a workspace on a windy day.

I've left plants growing in there. Last year I had a FANTASTIC Tigger melon growing (I don't think it gets warm enough outside here, the ones outside died). Every time I'd walk into the greenhouse there was a wonderful sweet smell.

one day I left the greenhouse door open and I guess a critter liked the smell too. There was ONE BITE MARK in my melon... JUST ONE. I should have taken a photo, it was like a cartoon bite mark! :mad:

I also use it to store my tomato cages in winter.

[MapMan]

I stopped by General Supply, the local feed store, to see what they had in the way of early plants. Onion sets were all that were available. I bought several bunches and got them in this afternoon. I've also planted lettuce, spinach, and Swiss chard. It may get whacked but that's ok.

I had to laugh when I took a moment and reflected on where I was and what it would look like to someone from another place. It's a really, really old place by our standards. Not "colonial" old like the stuff in New England, but a true general store that's been there for nearly a century. The wall behind the cash register is shelves with umpteen old cans and jars and tins full of seeds of every imaginable kind. A middle aged Navajo fellow was very carefully weighing small paper bags of onion bulbs, taping them shut, and labelling them before he stacked them against the back counter.

Other parts of the store are stacked with seed and fertilizer, crockery, lanterns and fuel, Lodge cast iron, sacks of flour, etc. There are chicks and ducklings peeping in their little heated cages. Bags of animal feed, bales of straw and alfalfa are stacked outside the door. It's really a sight.

Just sounds like the small-town farm co-ops or "hidden" Amish stores in this area.;) I find new places to get stuff on the cheap all the time.

Several weeks ago, I went to an Amish place about a mile away - I had heard that he sold onion seed, and I wanted to start some plants, instead of buying dried-up bunches of plants. He didn't have any seed to sell, told me who did sell seed... But then he said that he started onion seed for growers in the area, and if I wanted some plants, he could start them for me, and I could finish them off after they germinated. I ask about cost, "let's see, a couple bucks for seeds, planting mix, and plug tray... total $3.50 a tray... probably get about 250 plants per 280 plug tray, not all will germinate". No brainer, I ordered two trays for my garden area. :)

I checked on the trays this past week, they are up and growing, and I looked around his operation. Interesting setup - he composts horse manure in bins indoors, mixes the composted manure with liquid and dry organic fertilizer, riverbed soil, sand, etc. and sells the mix. Huge mixer in lower story of building running off a diesel engine. The things you find out about in rural areas by "networking" with neighbors is interesting.

MM

[Barry Digman]

Just sounds like the small-town farm co-ops or "hidden" Amish stores in this area.;) I find new places to get stuff on the cheap all the time.




You might check around for an Amish fellow named Daniel Hershberger and his son Jacob. I met them at the organic beekeepers meeting in Oracle, AZ in February. He's a dairy farmer in that area and is just now beginning to keep bees. Nice folks.

[MapMan]

Usually I will put a kerosene heater in if I think it will get too cold. This year I may try barrels of water that would heat up during the day, and then let off the heat at night, just a thought at this point. I was gonna take pics and post, but my darling kids got ahold of the digital camra, and lets just say it no longer works correctly:(. Anyway, I bought a cold frame from here:

http://www.farmtek.com/farm/supplies/home

And then also bought a piece of pull and cut film to fit it. Costs about $475 for a 12' X 16' greenhouse, with four year film on it. Not too bad:), an beats the wreck we were using:D(this one will actually have doors!).

I just finished demolishing the interior of a south-facing chicken coop here on the farm, turning it into a greenhouse. Got a late start here because of all of the snow, so I will have it going too late for plant starts, but certainly ready by June.

I bought some huge thermal windows for cheap from someone from a motel remodel - practically new, six feet square, with awning windows which can be placed above or below the fixed windows. I plan on going solar - I found a place where I can get factory-second insulated panels which I am using for interior skin - R-value for walls and ceiling will be 30+ when completed. I have a water storage bank of 55-gallon plastic barrels painted black which will contain 1650 gallons of water. Size of greenhouse is about 15' by 36'. Fun project.

MM

[Sundance]

After a long hard winter........... with the attendant bee losses,
I still stare at a 5 foot tall snow drift in the yard!! Down from it's
lofty 9 foot mark.

The thought of gardening is a godsend!:):):)

Went ice fishing last weekend and we nailed a 5.5# Walleye.
There is still 30" plus of solid ice. My son is traveling up for
ice fishing this weekend.

Nothing quite as wonderful as sitting on an ice pack with the
temps in the 40's and the sun beating down on you. bliss.....

[dragonfly]

For me this year I'm going to try and go more vertical with A frame trellises. Hoping to find a melon that will do well this way.

And today is clean up the garden day too!

(Peaches in blossom!? Here they just started budding and I hope they don't blossom to soon!)

Peas, onions, spinach, chard go in today.

John, if you want easy trellises that are transportable, I use cattle panels and bend them into arches. They are over 6 ft at the peak, so if you're tall, it's workable. Most of my garden is vertical except for squash and zucchini. I'll link a pic for you to see what I'm talking about.

http://www.pbase.com/dragonfly/image/33586106

Our peach trees are blooming, but when the plums were in bloom, we had freezing temps and light snow. Probably no plums this year :(
I plant spinach and chard in Fall here, and harvest it in early spring. Onions go in the ground in Feb, as do peas. I spent the past two days doing garden clean-up (my least favorite job outdoors ;)) and getting tomato beds ready. I'll love the garden until about mid-June when we start getting 100 degree temps.

[peggjam]

"John, if you want easy trellises that are transportable, I use cattle panels and bend them into arches. They are over 6 ft at the peak, so if you're tall, it's workable. Most of my garden is vertical except for squash and zucchini."


I used cattle pannels for my first greenhouse......it sure was a redneck looking thing, but it worked:D.

[peggjam]

I just finished demolishing the interior of a south-facing chicken coop here on the farm, turning it into a greenhouse. Got a late start here because of all of the snow, so I will have it going too late for plant starts, but certainly ready by June.

I bought some huge thermal windows for cheap from someone from a motel remodel - practically new, six feet square, with awning windows which can be placed above or below the fixed windows. I plan on going solar - I found a place where I can get factory-second insulated panels which I am using for interior skin - R-value for walls and ceiling will be 30+ when completed. I have a water storage bank of 55-gallon plastic barrels painted black which will contain 1650 gallons of water. Size of greenhouse is about 15' by 36'. Fun project.

MM

Sounds like quite a project. Are you going to try to extend your growing season with it? My wife would be in greenhouse heaven with one that size:).

Got my earthway seeder Tue. It looks like it might work:).

[dragonfly]

I used cattle pannels for my first greenhouse......it sure was a redneck looking thing, but it worked:D.

Ah now, my feelings are hurt. Did you look at my picture? I think it has a kind of gothic look myself ;)

[MapMan]

Sounds like quite a project. Are you going to try to extend your growing season with it? My wife would be in greenhouse heaven with one that size:).

Got my earthway seeder Tue. It looks like it might work:).

Extending season, starting plants, and growing greens in it in winter. According to my calculations, without supplemental heating I should be able to keep it an average of 55°F from January-middle of February, with 65°F and higher the other six months of winter.:o That is the reason for the tight construction, thick insulation, and large water mass storage. I am setting up the greenhouse with night panels for over the glazing, and an air lock entry.

I've done very well with ebb & flow and NFT hydroponic systems, so part of the greenhouse will be set up permanently as hydroponics.

Good luck with the Earthway.

MM