Nosema pis & Nosema ceranea

[Moeuk]

I have also placed this in the disease section of this forum.

I have been sent the photograph of N. ceranae from our Bee Unit at York.
I have blown up the photo a bit to try and distingquish the difference between the two.

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee168/mauricevaughan/Honey%20bee%20internal%20organs/Honey%20bees%20on%20flowers/Honey%20bee%20interest/Nosemaapisceranae.jpg

This reminds me of an advert, "Can you tell the difference?"

Moeuk.

[Michael Palmer]

Moe, did you stretch the photos when you edited? I thought that the nosemas were diffucult to tell apart. The difference in your photos is obvious.

[Moeuk]

Hi Mcheal,

All I did to the photo was enlage it.

These are the original photos.



http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee168/mauricevaughan/Honey%20bee%20internal%20organs/Honey%20bees%20on%20flowers/Honey%20bee%20interest/ceranaex400.jpg

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee168/mauricevaughan/Honey%20bee%20internal%20organs/Honey%20bees%20on%20flowers/Honey%20bee%20interest/apisx400.jpg

I highlighted an area and enlarged that particulararea.

Moeuk

[Ardilla]

The enlarged N. Ceranea photo did get stretched somewhat. That is clear when compared to the original photo. Actually they both are stretched a little though Ceranea is more so. The round bubbles in the originals are elongated in the enlarged versions.

[BEES4U]

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.beekeeping.com/abeille-de-france/articles/pictures/nosema_france.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.beekeeping.com/abeille-de-france/articles/nosema_france.htm&h=358&w=400&sz=20&hl=en&start=7&um=1&tbnid=LKbLkRyhO9XBQM:&tbnh=111&tbnw=124&prev=/images%3Fq%3DNOSEMA%2BCERANA%2BPHOTOS%26um%3D1%26h l%3Den%26rls%3Dcom.microsoft:en-US

Regards,
Ernie
Lucas Apiaries

[Jim Fischer]

Hold on there... the photos provided as examples are NOT TYPICAL.

I've looked at several hundred such slides in an attempt to sort
one from the other, but don't take my word for it - the conclusion
that has been reached by the research community as a whole
is that one simply cannot trust physical appearance to differ.

Anyway, it just does not matter, as the treatment is identical
for both sorts of Nosema.

There are hopes for other treatments, but the only known cure
that is legal in the USA for any form of Nosema is fumagillin.

[BEES4U]

http://images.google.com/images?um=1&hl=en&rls=com.microsoft%3Aen-US&q=+Nosema+ceranae+and+Nosema+apis&btnG=Search+Images

Regards,
Ernie
Lucas Apiaries