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Chef Isaac
02-18-2008, 08:58 AM
I am offering our Beekeeper and Landowner Agreement for those who plan to keep bees in out yards.
Also, we have a consignment contract we use when gift shops (or the like) want to carry our honey on consignment.
Feel free to email me at chefif@comcast.net
danno1800
02-18-2008, 09:22 AM
I sent you an email at that address asking for copies. I appreciate it! -Danno
Chef Isaac
02-18-2008, 09:35 AM
they are sent. Thank you for the interest. Glad to help!
bobbb
02-18-2008, 04:07 PM
like to have a copy of your contracts
Chef Isaac
02-18-2008, 06:31 PM
you need to send an email to my account listed above.
Dave W
02-18-2008, 06:49 PM
Can I get copies via Private Mail?
drobbins
02-18-2008, 06:53 PM
Chef
now that you have a website you can post links to such things if you want to
if you need help figuring out how let me know
(hint: it might drive a little traffic your way)
Dave
Chef Isaac
02-18-2008, 07:03 PM
Dro:
Yes, I should provide links from my web site and will plan to do that in the future. However, I am maxed out on my pages right now and need to order more space. Sometime I suppose.
DaveW: I would prefer that requests are sent to my email address.
NeilV
02-18-2008, 09:18 PM
emailed ya,
ndvan
Angi_H
02-18-2008, 09:40 PM
Email has been sent. Again thank you so much for allowing us to have a look at these. I have been wracking my brain trying to figure out what to put. I am also looking one for doing swarm removals or established hive removals if you know of any out there.
Angi
jeff123fish
02-19-2008, 08:56 PM
got mine today chef thanks
NeilV
02-19-2008, 09:28 PM
I got and reviewed them today. Look pretty good and to the point. I would stress that this is not legal advice for anybody, and you have the right to get these reviewed by an attorney in your jurisdiction.
I would suggest a few possible changes to the contract for keeping bees at a particular location. Also, its fine to call it an "agreement" but its still really a contract.
Here are my suggestions:
At the beginning, include a general statement that "The parties agree to the terms below, and further agree that the agreements of each of the party confers a benefit on the other party that constitutes good and valid consideration for this agreement." (One of the elements of a binding contract is "consideration," which basically means that there is a bargained for exchange, which could incude an exchange of promises. That's what separates a simple promise, which is unenforcable, from a contract.)
Instead of saying the contract is for a "season," I would have specific dates. That way there is no dispute about when the "season" begins or ends. Alternatively, you could have a certain start date and say that it continues until canceled by either party. That way, you could avoid the problem of an expired contract that everybody forgets to renew.
You could consider adding a statement that the property owner "Is aware that honeybees are stinging insects and can inflict severe bodily injury or death, and the property owner, on his own behalf and on behalf of his family, occupants, invitees and licensees on his property expressly assumes the risk that the honeybees could inflict injuries or death to himself and other persons." That may not be enforceable, particularly to the extent that someone other than the actual signer is the one who gets stung. But its worth a try. That could also scare off some property owners, so its a judgment call whether to include that. (Of course, as some people have recognized, it is a judgment call whether to do the contract at all.)
You could change the "hold harmless" language to "indemnify and hold harmless, including payment of beekeeper's attorney fees." Understand that the property owner may not have assets to actually fulfull that clause and insurance may not cover a liability assumed by contract.
Understand that the arbitration clause might not be enforceable in a given jurisdiction. Also, it would not be enforceable as to claims by third parties.
Those are just my thoughts. I'm not anybody's lawyer on this, just giving my personal views.
Monie
02-19-2008, 10:50 PM
I was curious, when placing hives elsewhere, do you remove the hives at the end of the season or do you leave them??
Chef Isaac
02-19-2008, 11:23 PM
i leave them and have them fill out another agreement.
ndvan:
Thank you for your input. I will change it next time around. I very much appreciate your time!
Jeffrey Todd
02-19-2008, 11:28 PM
Thanks to both Chef and ndvan for going to the trouble to help out other beekeepers.
Jeffrey
Chef Isaac
02-20-2008, 06:29 AM
I am of the belief that beekeeping is all about sharing. There should be no secerets as that they do not advance beekeeping as a whole. I would just ask anyone who has gottan the agreements from us, please share share share.
danno1800
02-20-2008, 10:27 AM
Thanks, Chef...you are the BEST! -Danno
Irene S
02-20-2008, 07:08 PM
Thanks, Chef...you are the BEST! -Danno
Hear hear! Thanks a bunch for all your effors and to ndvan for the additional input!
I agree.. a document like this protects both the beekeeper and the landowner, and outlines expectations. If the landowner has any problems with the agreement... it's better to know BEFORE leaving your hives (and the occupants) at his/her home!
:)
Drugstore
02-20-2008, 07:29 PM
Chef,
I sent you an E-mail.
thanks,
Drugstore
mlewis48
02-21-2008, 10:54 AM
Chef,
got you e-mail today, thank you for the contracts.
Marcus:D
the$bee
03-02-2008, 10:18 PM
sent off an email as well today thanks
Bob
Joshua2639
03-04-2008, 09:05 PM
Thanks Chef!