Anyone good at Math?

[Rob-bee]

The inside measurements of my hive body is.
9.5 inches tall
18.25 inches wide on two sides
14.75 inches wide on two sides
The volume inside this would be ?

To get the same volume with a round tube that has the inside dimensions of 11 7/8 inches. How tall would the tube need to be?

[randydrivesabus]

so thats 2,557 cu inches.....or about 1 1/2 cu ft.
so is that the diameter of your tube? if so the tube would have to be 23 inches tall.

someone needs to check that.

[mattoleriver]

Volume=pi x radius x radius x height
height=Volume/(pi x radius x radius)
height=(9.5"x18.25"x14.75")/(3.14x5.94"x5.94")
height=2557.28 cu"/110.79 sq"
height=23.08"

[Rob-bee]

Excellent work! Thanks a lot!

[Swobee]

matt got extra credit for showing his work!

[Dave W]

Rob-bee . . .

How do you plan to arrange your frames :)

[Rob-bee]

Still figuring on that. Got any ideas? Got some rolling around me old noggin. I just want to try something different. Don't expect it to be easy to work. Will post pics when got it figured out.

[Dave W]

>Got any ideas . . .

Guess you know, I MAKE SPECIAL FRAMES :)

I could make frames that fit inside 11-7/8" dia. x 23" tall.
Two in the middle could be the same size, next two could be the same, and so forth.
It wouldnt take many to fill the hive :) and a least they would be "removable" :)

Just a thought.

[Rob-bee]

Guess you know, I MAKE SPECIAL FRAMES

No I did not! Will pm you.

[betrbekepn]

Hey Rob-bee. I'm curious, what material are you planning to use for hive bodies\supers, tube 11 7/8" X 23". If I remember right, a conversation with MB, he mentioned that bees ideal natural tree hallow diameter is 16". Your plan to go with 11 7/8" diameter will result in a extra tall brood chamber (possibly detrimental to varroa mites) but I'm not for sure if it's ideal for the bees. Hopefully the bee experts will read this and correct me if I'm wrong. Curious, what's your plan for an entrance\entrances, hole\slot. I highly recommend having Dave W make your custom frames :)

[Rob-bee]

Well this idea is still in the infant planning stages. Dont plan to introduce any bees until the spring. The first choice for the hollow hive body was a large column. Like the ones you see on homes. Too expensive. So I went to Home Depot and picked up a couple of 12 inch "Quick Tubes". The kind that are used for concrete columns. This brand has no wax coating on the inside, which I prefer. I will use two 4 foot pieces, {one will slide into the other} cut them in 24 inch sections.

Haven't decided how I am going to do the frames or entrances yet. I have some ideas just nothing solid yet. But so far that is it. Will post some pics as the work progresses.

[betrbekepn]

Good idea Rob-bee, I've read somewhere of beekeepers using concrete hivebodies reporting that their concrete hives did allot better than their wood boxes. I too searched internet for round tubes to keep bees in. I was looking into high density styrofoam tubes that slip over heater\air condition round ducts for insulation, but I forget why I didn't pursue them (too expensive, not the right inside diameter?) I think I was looking for a 16" inside diameter as recommended by MB. What are you thinking to do about supers. You could use regular Langstroth boxes, but my concern would be with air circulation\ environmental control by the bees. I think my next experiment will be building a round version of the leaf or book hive, still contemplating what to use for supers. http://www.bushfarms.com/huber.htm Reasoning behind it is comb is connected from top to bottom, side to side as nature intended, while allowing accesses to brood inspections. Dave W, are you up for a challenge?

[Dave W]

>Dave W, are you up for a challenge . . .

Yep!

I know how to make ROUND wooden supers, IF anyone is interested.

[betrbekepn]

Yep!
I know how to make ROUND wooden supers, IF anyone is interested.

I'm interested! How much do you think 1 round beehive would run? One round leaf\book brood box, 16" inside diameter x 25.5" tall. Two round supers, 16" inside diameter x 12.75" tall, with a one piece removable comb guide for both. Complete with telescoping cover, slatted rack, screened bottom board.

[sqkcrk]

Still figuring on that. Got any ideas? Got some rolling around me old noggin. I just want to try something different. Don't expect it to be easy to work. Will post pics when got it figured out.

Why don't you just get a 23 inch tall trash can and turn it up side down and install bees in it? That's what a skep was when it was first entered into the Oxford English Dictionary, a trash recepticle or a coal or grain measure.

This sounds like the reinvention of skep technology to me. So, of course, I'm skeptical. Why do you want to do this? Are you just bored? Or what? Seriously. If we knew why maybe we would have some basis for suggestions on how to proceed. Or as it appears, regress. IMO

[sqkcrk]

Haven't decided how I am going to do the frames or entrances yet. I have some ideas just nothing solid yet. But so far that is it. Will post some pics as the work progresses.

If you will check out Dederots Encyclopedia of 1670 you will find illustrations of skeps and how they were used w/ cross bars in them and special knives that were used to cut the comb away from the walls of the skep so the whole colony and comb could be removed.

If you don't come up w/ a removable frame system you'll probably be breaking NC State Law. Many States require that hives have removable frames so they can be inspected for diseases and pests of honeybees.

I really think that yopu should search the historical record so you can see how things were done and you won't have to go stumbling in the dark. Good luck.

[Rob-bee]

Why don't you just get a 23 inch tall trash can and turn it up side down and install bees in it? That's what a skep was when it was first entered into the Oxford English Dictionary, a trash recepticle or a coal or grain measure.

You know where I can find one made of wood?:D



This sounds like the reinvention of skep technology to me. So, of course, I'm skeptical. Why do you want to do this? Are you just bored? Or what? Seriously. If we knew why maybe we would have some basis for suggestions on how to proceed. Or as it appears, regress. IMO

See previous statment...I want to try something new { to me} sigh.

[Rob-bee]

>I really think that yopu should search the historical record so you can see how things were done and you won't have to go stumbling in the dark. Good luck.

I rather stumble.

[sqkcrk]

Well, have fun.