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kawayanan
05-01-2007, 06:23 PM
I hived two packages on Sat. and went this morning to see if the queens were released yet. Not only were they released, but they were both laying. :) I don't know if thats common, but it made me happy.

I had to remove some small burr comb that was built off of the queen cages. While looking at them closely, My wife noticed a tiny little red bug. I immediately figured it was a Varroa mite. I tried to get a picture, but it kept moving. I set the comb down in the sun and got a picture of it. After looking at the pictures however, I just wanted to confirm my identification.

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f368/kawayanan/wordpress/2007-05-01/2007_05-01_10-42-28.jpg (http://topbarbees.wordpress.com)

Sorry for the bad picture. I started to wonder when I looked again at the pictures of Varroa on the web (like here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varroa_destructor)). It looks like Varroa should be wider than they are long, and have their feet kind of out in front. My bug looked more like a really small beetle. It was longer than it was wide, and had legs out all the way around. In the picture above, I am pretty sure it was moving toward the upper right corner. It honestly looked like a tick, but much smaller than any tick I have seen. Lastly, it moves reasonably fast. Not lightning fast, but enough to make taking a macro picture hard. It definitely seemed to move very fast for it size.

Any votes yea or nay on this being Varroa?

Jeffzhear
05-01-2007, 06:51 PM
From my recollection, that doesn't look like the ones I have seen, so I would say not...
Will be interested to see what others write.

newbee 101
05-01-2007, 07:09 PM
not even close...you wont find them crawling around the ground.....
Get a screened bottom board, if you want to see mites :)
http://www.acmepainting.com/mite.jpg

Michael Bush
05-02-2007, 04:39 AM
You already have your first Varroa, you just haven't seen it yet. :)

Dave W
05-02-2007, 08:31 AM
Look for dark reddish-brown "specks" on sticky-board. Varroa are about the same color as a "dog tick" and about the size of a "flea".

Black Creek
05-02-2007, 10:53 AM
may be a spider mite. they are very bright red. if it is a spider mite, it was just there by chance. they feed on plants.

Hobie
05-02-2007, 12:44 PM
It looks very much like a spider mite. I find them crawling on concrete all the time, don't know why. Most of the ticks I've seen are brown or black and, you're right, bigger.

kawayanan
05-02-2007, 09:30 PM
Thanks everyone for the thoughts. I looked around on the web for info and pictures of spider mites (and red spider mites). After looking, the closest looking mites I found on the web so far came up when I did a "red spider mite" image search on google. (google image search on red spider mite (http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=+red+spider+mite&btnG=Search+Images&gbv=2)) What was most interesting was that when I went to the pages where the pictures where, they were not pictures of spider mites, but rather pictures of predatory mites that can be used to kill spider mites. (Phytosieulus persimilis (http://www.bio.scarletts.co.uk/Red_Spider_Mite.html)). The picture that looks the very most like what I saw is on this page (http://www.whatsthatbug.com/mites.html). If you search for the date "06/14/2005", you will see a letter that included two pictures. The one on the right looks exactly like my mite. (I wish I could post it here, but there might be copyright issues). They seemed to originally think it was a predatory mite, but were corrected that it might be a Erythraeidae Balaustium, which is a pollen eater?

Bugs can definitely be interesting! :)

Brent Bean
05-02-2007, 09:37 PM
There isn’t any reason to wonder if you have Varroa ,YOU DO.