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hummingberd
04-16-2007, 10:10 AM
Ok, so I went to Google today, typed in the word "bee" and a bunch of websites came up, including this little bugger!!!


http://greensmiths.com/bees.htm

If you scroll down a bit you'll find the little section recommending to people that they quickly kill a colony that has taken up residence in their walls.

Who do these people think they are anyway? As I sat here in my chair pondering who on earth would write up such a destructive bit of information, I realized that's one of the downsides of the internet. Any one posing as a knowlegeable, educated scholar can type up an "official" looking website and start spouting off information to the public. And I'm sure there are plenty of people who find this website and heed the information. Perhaps that is a part of why so many bee colonies have disappeared. LOTS and LOTS of misinformation!!!

So, I politely composed an email included below. I encourage all of you who read this post to write up your own email to these lovely folks or even feel free to cut and paste my email. You can use parts of it, all of it, or even add on to it! We NEED to educate these people!

Hello-


I am a honey beekeeper located in Maine. I was reading through your information, most of which I like. I am hoping that you might be willing to update your webpage to include information on colony extraction services. Local beekeepers are often more than willing to do swarm removal for a small fee. There should be a list of local beekeepers in any given area willing to do this. You can get this list from local bee clubs, your state bee inspector, or contact your agricultural extension for more information if those don't work. Allowing a beekeeper to extract the colony is beneficial to both the property owner, the honey bee and the beekeeper. Everyone benefits. The property owner is able to humanely relocate the insects, the bees get a new home, and the beekeeper gets a new colony of bees! Everyone's happy.
I think we can all agree that honey bees are beneficial insects. In light of the decreasing population of honey bee colonies and with the losses experienced by beekeepers from Colony Collapse Disorder or CCD, it would be socially and agriculturally irresponsible for us to encourage anyone to kill a colony of honey bees. Especially a feral colony, which has survived through strong biology, and is the likely culprit which has built it's home in the walls of a house. I know LOTS of very educated beekeepers who would be willing to offer information you might need to properly educated people on how to deal with the extraction of bees from their home. This would be a great alternative to just destroying the colony. Thanks so much for your time and consideration of this matter.

If you scroll all the way to the end there is a link to their email address. Let's band together on this one! Thanks for your help guys :)

iddee
04-16-2007, 10:47 AM
You might want to add the fact that the honey remaining will be infested by mice, ants, and other undesirable critters while it is dripping down through the ceiling and/or walls and making a total mess in the house when the bees are no longer there to control and protect it.

I posted before reading all of their site, so I had not seen that they had covered the honey dripping .

I have now emailed them, also.

ChickenWing
04-16-2007, 11:21 AM
This is what is says about Honey Bees -- Perhaps its been updated already.

"When a bee colony is found in a building wall, it must be removed. Removal can be accomplished by contacting a local bee keeper in your area. Your local Agriculture Agent has names of all bee keepers close to you. Look in the blue pages of you phone book for his number. "

bejay
04-16-2007, 01:13 PM
If you scroll down a bit you'll find the little section recommending to people that they quickly kill a colony that has taken up residence in their walls.
if the colony has just taken up residence I dont really see the problem with it, as they will not have had time to start building combs and storing honey even established colonys could be killed as long as the combs and honey was removed, with alot of areas having to deal with africanized bees its probably not uncommon to do so.
guess its really up to the property owner to decide how to have it removed.

Ann
04-16-2007, 01:30 PM
Hummingberd, they must have quickly updated the site after you sent them an e-mail, because now it says this:


A honey bee colony in a house wall can cause major problems. The bees can chew through the wall and fly inside. Their storage of large amounts of honey invites other bees and wasps. Their detritus (e.g., dead bees, shedded larval skins, wax caps from combs and other material) attracts beetles and moths.

When a bee colony is found in a building wall, it must be removed. Removal can be accomplished by contacting a local bee keeper in your area. Your local Agriculture Agent has names of all bee keepers close to you. Look in the blue pages of you phone book for his number.

After the colony is moved you can safely remove the nest. If the nest is not removed, the wax combs -- normally cooled by the bees -- will melt and allow honey to flow down through the walls. Honey stain can never be removed; the walls will have to be replaced. As well, the freed honey attracts robber bees and wasps. The comb wax will attract wax moths that may persist for several years.

http://greensmiths.com/images/bees6.jpg

Close up of honey bee head.


Finally, after the colony is moved the entrance hole should be caulked or repaired to prevent further bee infestation.




Sounds reasonable to me! Good job!

(although what are Blue Pages? Around here it's Yellow Pages.....)

ChickenWing
04-16-2007, 01:37 PM
If you scroll down a bit you'll find the little section recommending to people that they quickly kill a colony that has taken up residence in their walls.
if the colony has just taken up residence I dont really see the problem with it, as they will not have had time to start building combs and storing honey even established colonys could be killed as long as the combs and honey was removed, with alot of areas having to deal with africanized bees its probably not uncommon to do so.
guess its really up to the property owner to decide how to have it removed.

The only thing I see below what I quoted is refering to Wasps and Hornets.

iddee
04-16-2007, 01:55 PM
It has been changed.

flathead
04-16-2007, 01:59 PM
Thanks Hummingbird

prisoner#1
04-16-2007, 07:57 PM
(although what are Blue Pages? Around here it's Yellow Pages.....)


blue pages are generally government listings, in atlanta is was a small section of
the white pages, out here you know both peoples number and you just yell for the sheriff :D

Ann
04-16-2007, 08:01 PM
Ah! Thank you. Now that you mention it there are some blue pages in the larger metropolitan area phone books up here, but they're not common. Beekeepers would be listed in there?