View Full Version : too late for this hive?
Black Creek
04-04-2007, 02:16 PM
i've just made it through my 1st winter with my one hive and it's booming with bees. i powder sugar dusted them late last fall to asses mite levels, and i didnt see any mites at all. Just about a week ago, i dusted them again. my 24hr mite count was 132 ! this hive is only about 1/2 way regressed to small cell. i'm trying to find a fogger now to try out the FGMO. Is it too late for that? should i buy use something potent like apistan instead? there is 2 full deeps and 1 medium halfway full and i was planning on splitting them soon. but since this is my 1st encounter with mites i was wondering if they are getting ready to spiral out of control or if there is still time. the old posts i've read mention people doing treatments when their counts were WAY lower than mine. i have several packages coming soon and i dont want them to be immediately under attack.
beedeetee
04-04-2007, 02:32 PM
Their count were probably based on the normal drop....not right after some kind of treatment. After a treatment you should expect a high drop for a time.
Black Creek
04-04-2007, 04:59 PM
maybe i'm just in a bit of a panic because i had no idea there were so many in there. i found as many as 4 mites per drone cell in a small sample(10 cells) of drone brood.
Michael Bush
04-04-2007, 09:59 PM
>i found as many as 4 mites per drone cell in a small sample(10 cells) of drone brood.
You have a lot of mites.
>i'm trying to find a fogger now to try out the FGMO. Is it too late for that?
In my experience FGMO is useful for maintenance, but not for knocking down a population of mites. You might want to cut out all the drone comb and throw it away to get rid of those mites. A sugar shake will get some of the phoretic mites, but that's really all you're going to get with any treatment while there is brood in the hive.
http://www.bushfarms.com/beesvarroatreatments.htm
HoneyBeeGood
04-05-2007, 01:58 AM
If the tempurature in your area is above 60 F most days, you could treat with Apiguard. It's a thymol based varroacide, so it doesn't have the resistence problems currently seen with Apistan and Bayverol. Treatment takes 4-6 weeks and honey produced during this time is not suitable for human consumption.
The manufacturer, Vita, claims up to 97% of mites killed if used according to instructions. I've used it two years running in the autumn. The first year yielded poor results from not following the directions. Last year it worked extreamly well in two colonies, and moderately well in one more.