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[uncletom]

I have finally found a foger that fits the bill but cannot find the FGMO. What exactly is food grade mineral oil, who uses it for what and where does one buy it?

Every place asked tries to sell me the stuff that that you use for a laxitive, is that the same stuff. Have tried the local food distributer, grocery stoers stc, nobody knows what it is.

thanks!

tom

[Michael Bush]

There has been much discussion on here concerning this. I am using the laxitive. I am having good luck with it. I am only fogging.

Dr. Rodriguez has stressed the importance, espcially when doing the new thymol treatment, that you use the corrct density of oil. I think that the laxitive oil I'm using is within that range, but I have not weighed it to confirm this. The density should be between .80 and .86. This means that a liter of oil would weigh 800 to 860 grams. The address of sources for oil that definitely fits this description are available if you search this forum. I don't have them in front of me. There are also posts where I convert this to the weight of a quart in ounces, which I don't have handy either.

[Dr. Pedro Rodriguez]

Hello folks.
I am back in Spain to ease my bees into winter. Next month I have a presentation in Portugal and then back to the USA for X-mas, God willing.
I had a wonderful, most pleasant tour through New England, MO and Michigan. As usual, I made a ton of friends and wish I had had more time to spend with all of you. Hopefully I will be back to share my continuying experiences usig FGMO with all of you. Thanks from the bottom of my heart for your kindness and hospitality.
I missed Wineman and clintbenrose in Michigan. What kept you away? Hope to meet you next time.
For Tom: visit your butcher's supply store in your town. They will have FGMO, the right kind! Butchers need to use light mineral oil for their trade. You might even find it in gallon bottles.
For all FGMO users: one ounze weighs 29 grams.
If you use thymol, it is important to know the density of the type of oil that you use in order to be able to compute the strength of your thymol in the formula. Example: FGMO-thymol emulsion/cords formula:
one liter FGMO @ 0.86 = 860 grams
one Kilo (2 1/4 lbs) honey = 1000 grams
one Kilo (2 1/4 lbs) bees wax = 1000 grams
one hundred grams thymol = 100 grams
____________
total weight 2960 grams

100 grams thymol
_____________________ = 3.37 % thymol

2960 grams total ingredients

For FGMO-thymol for fogger:

50 grams thymol
___________________ = 5.81 % thymol

860 grams FGMO

I trust that this explanation will help to eliminate your doubts. If not, please write and let me know.
Best regards.
Dr. Rodriguez

[Kurt Bower]

Dr. R:

Am I reading your post correctly in that you are now using FGMO-thymol in your fogger?
If so what are the results? Are you using this in conjunction with the FGMO-thymol cords?
Is there any possibility of building up resistance to thymol?
Kurt

[uncletom]

Thank you all for the help.

Mike;

I didn't relize this site saved all the past posts and they were so easly refered to. I see my question was very redundant. Thank you.

Dr. Rodriguez;

My town is so small we don't even have a butcher any more, not to mention a butcher supply store. http://www.beesource.com/ubb/smile.gif
You have given me the direction I need and I am sure I can find some in Buffalo or Erie, the two nearest real citys. Thank you very much.
I have been reading some of your past posts, now that mike has lead me to them. Very facinating stuff!

Mr. Bower;

I once knew a forester with the same name as you, A very pleasent and exceptional gentalman. Any relation?

Thanks

tom

[Michael Bush]

In English measurments:

A quart, not counting the weight of the bottle, should weigh between 26.7 and 28.7 ounces.

The closer it is to 60 degrees F the more accurate the measurment.

I still think the laxitive is in this range, but I need to find an accurate scale to find out for sure.

[Kurt Bower]

Tom:
Please call me Kurt.
I am not sure of any relation to the forester, but my family did live in your area for quite a while. Several family members lived over in the Akron/Lockport area while I myself grew up in Albion.
I hope that I might too be considered pleasant and exceptional.
Best regards,
Kurt

[Dr. Pedro Rodriguez]

Hello folks.
Good morning from a windy-very cold Spain. We are having a serious windy storm here, especially in the northern regions of the country. Needless to say, I have not been able to visit my sweet-loving friends yet. Hoepfully this storm will not last long.
YES, I have been using thymol with my fogger this year. As stated earlier, results will be revealed to the public as soon as I am able to assay the data collected.
If my established protocol is followed carefully, there is NO possibility for varroa or tracheal mites to develop resistance to thymol nor to FGMO. The reason is simple, the mites are removed from the population BEFORE phoretic females return to the cells to lay their eggs, or what is the same to continue their reproductive cycle. In order for mites to develop resistance to any substance, mites expossed to that particular substance must be able to pass on their genetic material to subsequent generations. Contrary to other types of applications, with FGMO-thymol expossure, mites promptly drop off on expossure (remember some folks reporting seeing pale-looking, inmature female mites dropping off?). Since the female mites do not return to the brood, their expossed genetic material is finished, end gene of transmission for that generation,. Hence no chance of development of resistance.
As stated previously, I will soon share with you my findings for this year's trials.
Best regards.
Dr. Rodriguez