FGMO

[nanintoo]

I'm here in New Zealand and have the Burgess Fogger, Pedro"s adaptor for fogger, and LPG tank..need someone from New Zealand to advise on the hook up...can anyone help ?? I'm not sure if I need a regulator or remove anything from the fogger before I put on the adaptor..
Many thanks,
Joe

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Joe

[Michael Bush]

I didn't use any adapter, but that must be just to hook up the propane (LBG) tank? There is no regulator on mine, just a valve and I turn it all the way on. The gas jet inside controls the flow.

[clintonbemrose]

I do not use a regulator on mine. I use a very large bulk tank and have found that if I use a hose longer than 25 feet it becomes hard to keep the fogger hot enough. Propane normally comes from the tank at between 2 to 6 pounds per square inch.
Clint

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Clinton Bemrose
just South of Lansing Michigan

[Dr. Pedro Rodriguez]

Hello Joe in NZ and other fellow beekeepers.
I had the same exact situation in Spain as you do in NZ. I purchased a large propane bottle (so that I would not have to continuously change the gas (small) bottles). That particular bottle did not have enough pressure in it to go through the valve. I found a technician who told me that the flow of the gas through that valve in the Burgess fogger depends on the type of gas and the pressure of the gas in the gas bottle.
I would like to suggest to you (and to those who may wish to convert to a larger gas bottle, to check with your gas supplier. Please remember, that you must use PROPANE gas with that burner.
Best regards.
Dr. Rodriguez
They will be able to tell you if you have the right kind of pressure in your propane bottle.

[WineMan]

I find what appears to me anyway to be significant differences in pressure between the small bottles of propane. New/full bottles seem to burn so hot that there is virtually no regulation of the fogger. I like the bottle to be about half full for best operation which can be somewhat accomplished by refilling them that way. However, when it runs too low it can be difficult to keep lite in heavy wind and the oil builds up and wants to sputter out and kill bees instead of fog.

I guess it is probably an issue of the fogger not being designed for what we are using it for.

[Dr. Pedro Rodriguez]

Hello folks.
I am pleading in favor of the fogger. It works well if we are careful with it.
After many years using it, I found from Burgess that the product in the Burgess fogger is mostly FGMO as the vehicle for a very small part of pesticide. It works well as a pesticide sprayer. It works well as an FGMO sprayer. Lets not ask exceeding demands from it. I suggest that we try to work with it carefully and be grateful that we have it. Count our blessings. I am afraid that soon we are going to start blaming the fogger again for failures that should be attributed to our demands.
Best regards and God bless.
Dr. Rodriguez

[Russ]

It may be that you are not getting PROPANE in these forien [sp] countrys. I worked for many years in the Propane industry and the standard here in the U S for Propane is 100# pressure at 100degs. F. As the bottle gets low the pressure of the Propane drops with the amount of Propane left in the bottle as the Liquid in the tank has to change over to a gas form [this is the reason for frost on the outside of the bottle or tank when you are using a lot of fuel. The small tube that goes into the valve in the bottle has a small orfice in it to control the pressure. That is why you don't need a regulator. If the fogger acts like it is starving for fuel, wait a few minutes and light it again, This may help providing the bottle isn't almost empty. Hope this helps. Dale

[Juandefuca]

I have repeately addressed the fogger issue , but may be I am a little too much expressive .
Forget about the pressure , hose length, size of tank and whatever else one can think about . I have FIXED mine after trials and errores and solved the problem with other foggers of the Burgess kind of a few comrade beekeepers .
How I "FIXED " Mine I rather not mention because one can loose the gadget and has to buy a new one . BUT ----- AT the intake valve of the FOGGER ( Not the hose the tank and the toilet bowl ) there is a STEM ( brass) with a hole in it to lead the gas to the lower valve body . This stem pushes against the propane source Tire valve to let the gas proceed . However, this brass stem also has SLOT for the gas to go around to enter the stem (Conduit) with the hole. This slot may be too small to let the gas pass around it . Take a slot saw ( Or a ground down hack saw blade) and widen the slot . Not too much though . You still need "meat" to open the tire valve stem !. You will find that opening the supply valves just a crack is enough to smoke the neighborhood . And your fogger does not estingush in wind or when lighting .
Happy hacking
JDF

[Alex Cantacuzene]

Hello Russ et al,
I have in the past put some gas bottles in hot water to get the rest of the propane out, could this trick tell you if the Burgess bottle is emtpy or not? I have no problem with the Burgess fogger but I light it in a portected area and let it warm up. It gurgles some time until it is hot and then it does a good job, of course, I am only a small time operator and with a large number of hive it could be another story. I would, however, save the empty small ones because I think there are devices that allow you to fill them from a large container.