FGMO in the Uk

[tessa]

I have been reading your threads about the right kind of FGMO to use and am now uncertain if I am using the right kind. Most of your posters are in the US where it appears you can buy it in ASDA and Walmart.
The only source of liquid petroleum i can find in the UK is the kind sold as a laxative and have used that. Now I see from reading here that this is a heavy oil and not a light one. There is no mention on the label of any of the specs mentioned in the discussions.
I dont know anyone else who believes this works so need to try it out to convert others.
This means however that places to buy it in industrial quantities are not any use to me and I only have 3 hives.
Anyone know of any source of the appropriate oil in the UK
Would Johnsons baby oil be the right type of oil?
Tessa

[tessa]

Also I forgot to ask, will treatment with cords only be enough?
If not is there anything easily available i can use as a fogger in the uk.
Many thanks in advance for your help.
Tessa

[Black and Amber]

Hi Tessa, Iam using Liquid Paraffin as sold in Chemist's shops, It has no spec. on the label, I buy it in 4.5 litre container's, much cheaper than the small quantities. I dont know if it is the right spec but it is working for me, both in the cords and the Fogger. I enquired in a Chemist's shop and was told it is the only grade available in Ireland. I dont think the cords alone will keep the mite levels below the danger threshold,and I dont know of another appliance that will deliver fog of the correct size microns. I purchased a fogger online from WWW. BUGSAWAY.COM delivered to Ireland for around 100Euro I hope this is of some help Best of Luck Richie

[Michael Bush]

>Would Johnsons baby oil be the right type of oil?

Definitely NOT. Baby oil has fragrance in it and will not work corectly.

>Also I forgot to ask, will treatment with cords only be enough?

Dr. Rodriguez was using only cords with good luck against varroa but I believe he was putting them in more often. I suspect the cords would have some of the "crisco" effect on tracheal mites, but I don't know that. The fogger is easier than doing cords more often and also fights the tracheal mites. If you are only worried about varroa and are only going to use one thing, I think the cords will work.
http://www.beesource.com/ubb/Forum11/HTML/000099.html http://www.beesource.com/ubb/Forum11/HTML/000041.html

Here is a summary of most of the discussions and questions, including the oil. In the UK I would look for oil that would be described as above. "liquid parrifin oil" or "white liquid parrifin oil" etc.
http://www.beesource.com/ubb/Forum11/HTML/000076.html

Here is a discussion of the "correct" oil.

[cgytm]

Anyone know of any source of the appropriate oil in the UK
Would Johnsons baby oil be the right type of oil?

Baby's oil (and "all" cosmetic oils) is generally speaking the right type of oil as far as density (low density) is concerned (and viscosity and edibility also!) BUT there are addidtives that make it UNACCEPTABLE.

Laxative oils as far as edibility is concered are ok BUT the density is not correct they are "heavy" oil.

So "forget about USP or BP oils". This is a simple and nearly 100% efficient rule of thumb.

CAS is an "new" universal "standard" and there are no reasons why British or other European countries would not use it or refer to it. As I said in an other thread ask fo the specs or check them on the Web.

Veterinarian oils for horses and lambs frequently meat that standard. I DO NOT SAY THAT THEY ALWAYS MEET!"!!! So check and be carefull. This could be a possible source and most of the time it is sold in 4.5 liters can. The three key elements to check and by order are density, edibility, viscosity.


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Normand Choiniere
Mont-Tremblant region, Quebec, Canada.
http://consultus.qc.ca/valmiel