One Big Bag of Sugar!!!

[Sundance]

Well I bought the biggest bag of sugar I
ever thought I would ever buy today.

2500 pounds!!!! I will have to take a pic
tomorrow to post. It's in a big white poly
sack.... Sweet.....

[Rod Weakley]

We call those super sacks here at work. Hope you have a fork truck to use it with.

[xC0000005]

How large is that sack?

[PA Pete]

How many gallons of water to make 2:1?

:D

[ September 08, 2006, 11:08 PM: Message edited by: PA Pete ]

[Chef Isaac]

mmmm, maybe we need to make some cookies!!!!

[Sundance]

The sacks bottom covers a pallet and its
4 feet tall or better. My Bobcat make be
a bit weak for it.... I'll find out tomorrow
for sure. But I have to mix up 125 gallons
of feed right away so that will get rid of
250#.

Best thing is it cost me only $308 which is
way cheaper than HFCS (which is said to get
much higher in the next year or so). Plus
you can mix it up as you need it in 125 gal
batchs.... I am a happy camper.....

[beegee]

My 743 Bobcat is rated at 1400 lbs. I believe it. I do a lot of moving of heavy stuff on 2 front wheels.

[pahvantpiper]

Bruce,
Unless you have a big Bobcat...Good luck, I know my swinger couldn't touch it.

We get those big poly sacs all the time at the dairy full of mineral.

You're right about the price though, WOW, that's way cheaper than HFCS. Wonder if there's a way to mix it in large quantities, say, 200+ gallons at a time.

Don't let the ants find it, lol.

[Sundance]

They used a 873 to load it with no problem.
My 721 will be hard pressed..... I'll know
in an hour or so. I think I'll trade up to
an 873 next year.

Lots of folks mix large batchs. I do 125 gal
at a time.

[George Fergusson]

>How many gallons of water to make 2:1?

150 gallons, more or less.

[Sundance]

Hey George..... It will make 341 gallons of
66% solids (2:1). 2500 pounds of sugar plus
1250 pounds of water = 3750 pounds. Divide
that by 11 pounds per gallon is what I go
by...... I could be off though.

[iddee]

>>I'll find out tomorrow
for sure. But I have to mix up 125 gallons
of feed right away so that will get rid of
250#.<<

Better check your math. That is 2 lb. per gal. :confused: :D

[Sundance]

Hope others chime in here.

I did check my math. I have been told by
sellers of HFCS and Liquid Sucrose at 66%
solids weighs 11 pounds per gallon.

So if you have a batch that weighs 3750
pounds then it is going to be close or
near to 341 gallons.

[Sundance]

I got you Iddee...... the tank already has
a bunch in it. I will be topping it off and
use 250# for that. It takes 900# for a 125
gallon batch of 2:1. Sorry for confusion...

[Sundance]

That 11# per gallon I was given has to
be off.... Doesn't honey weight 11# per
gallon??? and that is 82% solids....

Yikes!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

[Sundance]

Wow...... here's a great resource.


http://www.beekeeping.co.nz/convert.htm#sugarmix1

http://www.beekeeping.co.nz/convert.htm

[Sundance]

According to this calculator 66% solids
in sugar syrup is 13#!! I gotta change
all my figures :eek: :eek: :( :(

[George Fergusson]

>Sorry for confusion...

Confused? Who's confused?

>Doesn't honey weight 11# per gallon???

I always figured honey weighed 12# per gallon but I suppose that can vary somewhat.

2:1 and 1:1 I can figure out. Start talking brix scales and percent solids and I'm left cold, and confused. It seems to me that 1 gallon of water and 8# sugar gives me 1.5 gallons of syrup which works out to around 11 pounds per gallon. I'd have to check.

I'll check out that calculator...

[ September 09, 2006, 09:22 AM: Message edited by: George Fergusson ]

[Jeffrey Todd]

Bruce, what kind of feeders are you planning on using to feed all that syrup with? And how are you going to store the sugar that is not used right away? Is there any way for you to divide that load up so your loader can handle it?
Good luck,

Jeffrey

[Sundance]

I have it on a trailer that I don't need
right away. A couple of batches and I can
pull it off.

I used to use inverted buckets but have
switched completey to Mother Lode feeders
with ladders. (frame style feeder).

Being dry the sugar will store easily indoors.
And it will probably all go this fall.

[Jeffrey Todd]

So this must work out to around 25 lbs. per hive? Is there no fall flow to help your bees stock up for the winter? I, too, am having to feed, both because of a severe drought and the fact that I have several nucs I am planning on taking through the "winter" (we did have ice on the roads one day last December - I stayed home from work. Have you ever tried driving on that stuff? smile.gif )

[Sundance]

There is a little nectar out there, but for
practical purposes.... nothing really.

Generally hives up here take 4 to 5 gallons
of feed in the fall.... generally....

[pahvantpiper]

Bruce,
Thanx for the great web site!
So, how do you go about mixing large quantities of sugar syrup w/o too much elbow grease - cement mixer?

[Sundance]

I'm using a drywall mud mixer on my big
Milwaulkee drill......

[DChap]

(we did have ice on the roads one day last December - I stayed home from work. Have you ever tried driving on that stuff? )

every winter smile.gif

Blessed Bee
Doug

[Chef Isaac]

where is the darn picture you promised us??? smile.gif

[SilverFox]

I remember when I drove semi, they had a 'freak' snow storm around Dallas, truckers were parking on the shoulder of the road and sitting on their trailers watching the show, :D really good laughs from what I was told.
Cut my 'teeth' driving in the Colorado 'Rockies, I think every one that wants a drivers license should have to do 2 things, 1:learn from a stick and 2: learn to drive in snow and ice, then you can drive about anywhere, 'cept in Asian countrys where they have their own sort of driving problems. ;)