going to do a cut out

[bluegrass]

I am going to do a cut out within the next few months from the wall of a house. Owner says the colony has been in the wall for three years now so I imagine they will make it this winter without any trouble. House has no power so I have to deal with that issue. I will be doing it from the interior as nobody is in the house and the sheetrock will be easier to repair than the siding. Anybody try it on the inside before? Any thoughts?

[iddee]

Do it correctly and there will be very little repair to be done.

http://s81.photobucket.com/albums/j226/Iddee/removals/

The wall can be cut just as neatly.
Just stop, look, and listen. Be sure of their location before starting.

[Sarge]

Working from the inside IS alot easier in most cases. Don't make a mistake and try to be too neat you need room to work, and a small hole will be more work than a bigger one.
Just take your time and it will all work out.


wayne

[iddee]

>>>> Just take your time and it will all work out.<<<<

That is the best advice you can get. Read it 3 times just to be sure it has soaked in. The bees aren't going anywhere, and your biggest enemy in a removal is rushing in before thinking.

[bluegrass]

Iddee... did you use a bee vac with that ceiling removal? I know I should use one, but I have problems with too much suction killing bees so I prefer to not use one. Mine is a plastic bucket type; is there another design I should try? Also I was thinking about gassing the whole colony before removing them. I havent ever tried that before and was looking for thoughts on that.

[iddee]

http://s81.photobucket.com/albums/j226/Iddee/BEE%20VAC/

The box is made from 1X6 board, slotted for the slide tray, one vac hose hole in each end, and 2 1in. screened holes in each side.
Just inside the shop vac hose hole is a screen, angled to divert the bees downward.
The shop vac is plugged into a router controller I purchased at harbor freight.
With the slide tray in, I vac the bees off the comb, making large vac adj. by removing the duct tape from the screened 1 in. holes. I use the router controller to make minor vac adj. until the bees come gently into the box without bouncing off the back side.
After vacuuming, I remove the brood comb and wire it into frames and place them into a hive body. Then I set the box on the hive body and remove the slide tray, allowing the bees to move down onto the brood comb.

The unit can be sat on the hive body without the slide tray for vacuuming a hanging swarm directly into the hive when you don't have comb to install afterward, as in a removal.

[ January 25, 2007, 08:57 AM: Message edited by: iddee ]

[bluegrass]

I like it; now its time to build one. Is that glass or plexi on top?

[Craig W.]

at least you don't live in Texas. Its against the law in Texas for a beek to do a cut out of a home. Although they do it anyway and so would I.
Another law we have is its against the law to extract honey in your home.

Naturally big business has their way with law makers.
People who do this, need to make sure they do it right, its when people do it without regard to other, laws get changed.

[iddee]

Plexiglas

[bluegrass]

I think in most urban areas it is against the law because of building codes and contractor license requirements. But some laws are not enforced until you give them a reason to enforce them. The trick is to not give them the reason, and if you do.... act dumb;) This cutout is in an urban setting and the house is abandoned.

[hrogers]

Howdy Blue --

One thing to remember when doing inside removals is to be sure all windows are open to allow the flying bees to get back outside or they will pile up in the window and die. A vacc will help.

Doc