View Full Version : confused, what just happend
ngyoung
07-21-2006, 05:26 PM
here's the situation, i requeened an extremly hot hive a few weeks back,killed the hot queen waited 24 hrs then introduced new queen in her cage, they built only one queen cell while new queen was in her cage never caped it, they released queen in six days,but when i checked they looked like they were trying to kill her, but in the two between when she was released and checked on her she laid almost a frame and a half of eggs, ever since then i haven't been able to find her, she was clipped and marked, but continued to find fresh larvae in the hive.now the bees never stopped building queen cells, now one is capped, and today i went looking for that queen,and actually found her but get this she wasn't marked or clipped, and the bees didn't seem to be tending to her at all, she seemed to have something wrong with her legs on her right side, was this my marked queen just injured and the bees are superceding her or was this a virgin that was running around when i released my queen, possibly why they didn't want to except my queen.
thanks for the advice in advance.
ngyoung
07-21-2006, 06:43 PM
i just went back to the hive to take another look at that queen, couldn't really find anything wrong with her, but had her on my hand and she started flying around, so she definantly wasn't clipped, but i lost her don't know were she went. guess i'll just what on the queen cells!
George Fergusson
07-21-2006, 06:59 PM
Well the situation is a little confusing since you don't supply a good timeline, but it sounds like the bees managed to raise a queen while you were trying to introduce one. I doubt under the circumstances that your queen managed to lay a frame and a half of eggs before they killed her- once a queen is released and starts laying, she's usually good to go.
If enough time didn't pass between killing the old queen and spotting eggs in the hive for them to have raised a new queen, perhaps there were 2 queens in the hive- a not all that uncommon a situation, especially with "hot" hives and especially with africanized hives.
tecumseh
07-21-2006, 08:19 PM
I would think george' reasoning is sound. although always of sound mind is something all together different, don't you know?
old queen and daughter sounds about right. if so I would suspect you murdered the daughter on round one and it is the old queen you most recently handled. the hives is simply still trying to superscedure the old queen. this may also partially explain why the hive may have been perceived as 'hot'.
ngyoung
07-21-2006, 08:52 PM
the more i think about it, i believe the old queen and daughter sounds about right, definitly not AFB or i'd a been had a long time ago, the queen i handled today did look pretty aged, but shes not in the hive anymore, so ordered another queen,gonna try
a NW Carnolian.
George Fergusson
07-22-2006, 04:38 AM
>I would think george' reasoning is sound. although always of sound mind is something all together different,
Nobody who knows me would make that mistake tecumseh.
>definitly not AFB
I assume you mean AHB. How hot is/was your hive, and has it always been this way? You are in supposedly AHB territory.
HarryVanderpool
07-22-2006, 04:43 AM
:cool:
[ July 22, 2006, 05:45 AM: Message edited by: HarryVanderpool ]
Michael Bush
07-22-2006, 05:54 PM
They may have already had a daughter raised.