Martha
03-20-2004, 05:33 PM
Today was my bee group's all day bee workshop day. Lots of sitting in hard chairs!
I did see lots of great slides.
Small hive beetle is in southern and eastern Missouri, but not seen in KC metro - yet.
I learned that in order for apple trees to pollinate correctly you have to have more than one kind of apple tree around.
That if you ask the guys and Jolie about using Essent oils, vit c, liquid leth, fgmo fogging, small cell etc you are nuts and listening to people who just say it is great. They said that if I want to learn about NPM techs, I should only look at sites by universities and bee labs.
Basically you guys are kooks for considering anything BUT chemicals all the time for everything.
They talked about grease patties a little - not saying what they do. Really discounted bee escapes - pushed the fume board/beego/beequik. I guess if I had hundreds of hives I'd take the fastest way.
One other man and I were asking about the FGMo fogging. He bought a fogger off ebay. Some one told him it was petrol product and he'd be wasting his time. I told this guy to check out this site and that there is a organic email loop (which I am currently lurking - lurk lurk). He doesn't want chems in his hive. He feels that even if you do the chems before the honey supers go on, it is still in the brood boxes/frames/wax. Then the bees will track it up into the supers. Plus the babies will be born in it. Perhaps the resistance to the chems begins with the residue in the brood frames.
I found out mid-con is getting all their bees from CA. None from the south.
I've decided to strike up a deal with the 20 yr old farm girl, who pollinates her neighbor's fruit orchard. She's going to sell me - 3 frames of brood, queen and some bees for $60. I will take my 2 bottoms,2 deeps and lids to church in April. She'd take them home to the farm and set it up in my deeps. Then I'll drive out and pick them up in the evening - that day or the next. So, I'll be about a month ahead than those getting a package.
One nice old guy, I was bugging about breeds. Told me he had mutts. He's not sure what breed they are now. He hasn't bought a queen or bees in years. His bees take care of business just fine.
One presenter, I asked about the escent oils etc goes " Well I only use them in my soaps!". He must have thought I was from the moon from the look I got! And he was a young guy - ok younger than me...coulda been my kid.
I'd sure hate to get into a talk with these guys about organic foods! Or alternative med. Or Pres Bush. or tofu....yoga....
They are fasinated that I bring my knitting with me to meetings. Kinda funny.
I won a bee brush. I needed one.
So - your thoughts?
Martha
I did see lots of great slides.
Small hive beetle is in southern and eastern Missouri, but not seen in KC metro - yet.
I learned that in order for apple trees to pollinate correctly you have to have more than one kind of apple tree around.
That if you ask the guys and Jolie about using Essent oils, vit c, liquid leth, fgmo fogging, small cell etc you are nuts and listening to people who just say it is great. They said that if I want to learn about NPM techs, I should only look at sites by universities and bee labs.
Basically you guys are kooks for considering anything BUT chemicals all the time for everything.
They talked about grease patties a little - not saying what they do. Really discounted bee escapes - pushed the fume board/beego/beequik. I guess if I had hundreds of hives I'd take the fastest way.
One other man and I were asking about the FGMo fogging. He bought a fogger off ebay. Some one told him it was petrol product and he'd be wasting his time. I told this guy to check out this site and that there is a organic email loop (which I am currently lurking - lurk lurk). He doesn't want chems in his hive. He feels that even if you do the chems before the honey supers go on, it is still in the brood boxes/frames/wax. Then the bees will track it up into the supers. Plus the babies will be born in it. Perhaps the resistance to the chems begins with the residue in the brood frames.
I found out mid-con is getting all their bees from CA. None from the south.
I've decided to strike up a deal with the 20 yr old farm girl, who pollinates her neighbor's fruit orchard. She's going to sell me - 3 frames of brood, queen and some bees for $60. I will take my 2 bottoms,2 deeps and lids to church in April. She'd take them home to the farm and set it up in my deeps. Then I'll drive out and pick them up in the evening - that day or the next. So, I'll be about a month ahead than those getting a package.
One nice old guy, I was bugging about breeds. Told me he had mutts. He's not sure what breed they are now. He hasn't bought a queen or bees in years. His bees take care of business just fine.
One presenter, I asked about the escent oils etc goes " Well I only use them in my soaps!". He must have thought I was from the moon from the look I got! And he was a young guy - ok younger than me...coulda been my kid.
I'd sure hate to get into a talk with these guys about organic foods! Or alternative med. Or Pres Bush. or tofu....yoga....
They are fasinated that I bring my knitting with me to meetings. Kinda funny.
I won a bee brush. I needed one.
So - your thoughts?
Martha