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John F
05-08-2006, 10:27 PM
I'm a beek. Novice, rookie, newbie, greenhorn,... that too.

The assosication's order of packages arrived in the State last Wednesday and I picked them up on Friday evening.

Saturday morning I carried my box-o-bees to the topbar hive that has been waiting. I did not wear a veil or gloves or anything since I'm still trying to keep this hush-hush with the neighbors.

Deep breath. Spray bees with syrup, pull off can. A few flyers. Deep breath. Remove queen cage and set can back over hole. Whew. The flyers are buzzing around but seem more interested in getting the syrup off the outside of the box right now.

The queen cage has no candy and the cork is sideway and pushed to far in to reach. Forgot marshmallow! I sat the queen down in the shade and went back into the house to get a marshmallow.

My hive is built using Dennis's plans except I put the entrance at the top just under the edge of the cover. I built a follower that also has a feeder box that holds 2 quart jars inverted and I've pushed that up so that the bees will only have 5 bars space for now and an entrance that is about pinky finger in diameter.

I hange the queen cage between bars 1&2. Her attendants won't leave her. I go back to the box-o-bees and Whoa! The can wasn't really covering the hole! The bees were free! Well, they would have been if the wanted to be. It appears that most all were busy with the sugar water.

I dump the box into the hive. HolyShmoly there a lot of bees here! And the sound has changed! And my fight or flight response has me thinking RUN! Deep breath. Shake the box a couple of times and there is no way your gonna get all of those bees out of this box. That's what they say and I now think they are right.

I put the hive back together, sat the box on the ground near the hive, and walk away. Will the flyers and the rest still in the box find the mass of bees through that pinky sized hole? Should I worry? I'll watch for a few minutes just to see what happens...

First WOW observation: I see one of the flyers flying in smaller and smaller arcs in front of the hive. After a bit she homes in on the area of the hole and in just a few seconds, BAMMO, she walks in. This couldn't have been but about a minute after I walked away. Guess I don't need to worry about that.

Today is about three days later and I need to go and check to make sure the queen is out of her cage. Again, no veil or anything, but pretty soon the neighbors are going to know something is up with me staring at the box in my garden and all.

I see very little action at the entrance. The sky above has overcast and I remember reading (here) that weather can get them cranky. I think this may be the day I learn to always wear my veil. I pull the cover. No bee behind the follower (I added a corrigated cardboard 'gasket' after reading Michael Bush's experience with followers) and about 1/3 of the syrup is gone. This action has the caused the hive to, well, nothing.

Remember I put the cage between bars 1&2? Well, the follower would be bar 6. I have to move all of the bars to make a space to get the cage out. I note to do this the other way next time.

I carefully lift bar 5 at the back and peek in. Cool! They're making comb along the comb guide. I lift all of the bars this way and it turns out to be true for them all. They are building the most right in front of the entrance, which would be bar 5, and all towards the front of the hive.

Now I have to make space enough to get the queen cage out so I make about a 1/2 space by pulling the follower back and then bar 5 and then 4 and so on. Grab the metal strap of the queen cage and lift bar 1. I tug and the bees that were camped on the cage fall to the bottom with a thud. The buzz changes and my instinct is telling me to run again. The cage is empty and I set bar 1 down.

They aren't trying to kill me yet. They have noticed the opening I've made between the bars. Now I wish I had the smoker. Wiggle jiggle coax with the hive tool and I get it all closed again. I know some got squished. I hope I didn't kill the queen.

(So your queen was out? Yeah, so I killed her...)

Next time, the smoker for sure just to push them down so I can close the bars. (or maybe Jim's stuff would be easier for this? Fischer beequick I think?)

I'm 43 and have worked around livestock quite a bit. The large animal type. I think it's kind of interesting how a few bees in a bunch can get the flight thing dug out of the instinctual part of the brain. I've been stung many times before. Didn't even know there was a fear there.

tecumseh
05-09-2006, 05:37 AM
howdy john f...

quite an interest thing to find yourself right in the middle of.... yes? and it sounds like installing the package is going well. wish you luck bro...

the john f sezs:
I think it's kind of interesting how a few bees in a bunch can get the flight thing dug out of the instinctual part of the brain. I've been stung many times before. Didn't even know there was a fear there.

tecumseh replies:
I would guess that mizz tecumseh could 'splin it to you johnf. it is quite amazing to figure out what is learned and what is hard wired in regards to behavior (which is more or less mizz tecumseh professional focus).

carbide
05-09-2006, 08:27 AM
Ain't life grand? Don't you love it when a plan comes together?

Any time I work my bees I plan in advance what I'm going to do when I open the hives. Unfortunately, the bees normally have a different plan already in progress.

Good luck with your new hive. Once you have ten or twenty more you'll get use to the rush you get when you hive a new package. I have one question for you, did I understand correctly that the opening in your hive is only as big as your pinky? If this is so, you're going to have quite a traffic jam at the opening once your hive population gets up to mid summer levels.

wayacoyote
05-09-2006, 10:00 AM
John F,
Congrats.
And a compliment on your writing as well. such detail and discription. This will be important as you get another few hives. Keep it up. You've got a beekeeping journal, I'm sure. I was keeping my hive discriptions all together, now I'm wondering if I should give each its own divider in my notebook. Big timers probably don't write as much as I do, but I do this hobby for fun, and writing is another hobby.

Waya

John F
05-09-2006, 11:21 AM
<carbide>
did I understand correctly that the opening in your hive is only as big as your pinky?

Not to worry. The whole of the entrance to the hive is a 1/2 inch slot routed along the top of the side. When the hive is completely open to the bees it will allow about 9 inches square of space. I put it in such a place that when I limit the hive to 5 bars with the follower, only a pinky size entrance is left. When I add bars the entrance will become longer.

Mitch
05-09-2006, 11:30 AM
John F
Not to worrie now you are hooked.The run instinct will go away soon and you will stay and watch more and more.In a few week you will be building another hive and asking who has bees i can buy lol.Good luck have fun

John F
05-09-2006, 11:40 AM
Hey all, thanks for the words.

Now Mitch, I gotta tell ya bud, there are two empty hives right next to this one. I spent a few minutes chopping 2x4 scrap last Saturday so I can build 16 bottoms. (What do I need 16 bottoms for? This hobby might be getting out of hand!) Anyway, if you have some bees available...

Mitch
05-10-2006, 08:30 AM
Oh no you are worse off than i thought,you have the bug bad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1