From: Erik Osterlund <honeybee@elgon.se>
Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 22:24:49 +0100
To: BiologicalBeekeeping@yahoogroups.com
Subject:
Re: cell size measurement

At 07.01 -0700 02-01-05, Allen Dick wrote:

>If the genetics of the bees on small comb are not much, if at all different,
>from the bees that are being raised on large cells as I have heard claimed
>by the main proponent of small cell, and the queen cells used are not
>constrictive, and the feed is not restricted, and if we can assume that the
>feed for queens raised in large cell and small cell hives must be the same
>(or else we would be getting caste effects), then how can queens raised by
>small comb bees differ from queens raised by bees on large comb?

It's a good question Allen

And I ask the same.

To be on the safe side when downsizing, as it may well be somewhat
different functioning together in a colony with small cell sizes and in a
colony with big cells, a queen's colony, if given the chance to work on
both alternatives, may well function differently on them. So maybe a colony
selected for breeding when on small cells, maybe shouldn't have been
selected when on big cells. This is of course mere speculation from my
point of view, but as I figure not a bad speculation, until we know for
sure, if anyone takes the time to make an enough big test to give the
answer. Again, to be on the safe side, I myself would prefer therefore, if
given the choice, to buy queens from a queen breeder using small cell
size, if I myself is downsizing my operation concerning cell size.

Again, maybe not altogether mere speculation. In my own operation, when I
gave 4.9-foundation (actually 4.8) to about 70 of my colonies, only a few
managed to draw them nicely (all of my bees were then born in 5.4-5.5
cells). I choose to breed from some of those colonies (that was 2000), and
2001 the colonies headed by queens obtained from them were better than
average in drawing 4.9-foundation nicely. So drawing small cell size nicely
is not only due to in which cell size the workers are born, but also due to
genetics. Anything else would actually be a surprize to me.

Best regards

Erik